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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   19 Jun 2013, 07:37
Don't give up quickbisk. For one, you probably rated yourself too low in some areas, and also don't take this test as proof of anything. I found it helpful in showing me where my weak spots are so use it as a guide to where you can improve. Most important, give yourself a spread with your choice of schools and choose them well. Good luck! It's a difficult time but it will pass.......
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   25 Jun 2013, 07:02
I appreciate your words of encouragement, Sanjohns. I have re-rated myself up to 65 and changed one of my recommendation sources to someone who I worked with in the past and who knows I can be very determined. I will keep trying to improve on my essays and get knowledgeable (I had to look that up) feedback on them.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   03 Jul 2013, 01:24
A 65 on this test is not bad - competitive, or close to it, in most of the top schools but a stretch with the top three or four. The trick is to give yourself a realistic rating - you wouldn't jump 5 points on this test without some big changes. What did you change? And don't go too far back for a recommendation - the adcoms want to hear about you from someone you've worked for, or with, in the recent past.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   10 Jul 2013, 11:00
This test takes a long time to do but gives a fairly accurate result. My co-op roommate, an engineer, heard about it and thought he'd try it. He'd a determined guy so once he'd started he just ploughed his way through to the end. He came away with competitive for Tuck and Northwestern and competitive-stretch for Booth and to his amazement he ended up getting accepted to Booth. I think he changed his career goals somewhere in the process but he is going to Booth.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   17 Jul 2013, 03:07
Yes, this test takes time to do but it does give you an idea of where you stand and what your chances are and I think that's important to know so that you can make changes and improvements to your application. For one thing, it gave me a better understanding of the emphasis on work experience and I re-phrased some things on my resume to tie them in to my essays in a more imaginative way. I feel that I have a better application now.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   24 Jul 2013, 17:16
I agree that this test is very helpful even if you don't score that well because it shows you where you need to improve. I also feel I have a better application since I did it.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   09 Aug 2013, 08:28
In answer to the question "Do you have to be an engineer to do this test?" the answer is no. The engineering part relates to your work experience but you might have changed your goals since your undergraduate degree. Lots of people do. The test gives a pretty accurate assessment of chances no matter what your 1st degree was in.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   16 Aug 2013, 10:47
I found this to be a good and accurate test whether you have an engineering degree or not. Never mind the time it takes, if you want an idea of whether you're competitive material for the best schools, it's worth doing. You're putting so much effort in to your application so why not try to find out how close it is to being ready for submission? There are plenty of pointers here.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   24 Aug 2013, 13:25
Absolutely. It's a diagnostic tool and at a certain point in preparing your applications you need to do a reality check.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   31 Aug 2013, 09:56
We should all be ready to apply in Round 1 by now or pretty close depending on the school and I just want to say that without this test I would have had a different application. So do it giving yourself enough time to reconsider some aspects of your essays and the emphases in your resume. Best of luck to all Round 1ers!
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   06 Sep 2013, 18:07
Did anyone do a video presentation as part of their application?I hear Kellogg is going to be using it in next years application requirements but I also heard that someone sent a short video to Harvard this year instead of the single written essay. They did state that any 'medium' is acceptable for this part of the application. It seems risky to me, and what kind of format would you use?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   11 Sep 2013, 19:14
The Kellogg video, required next year BTW, has the format of question and answer, but spontaneous. The only problem there would be what to wear. But doing your own video? Not for everyone. Maybe someone who's done acting would venture it and give a little performance.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   17 Sep 2013, 20:23
You can also do, and I know some people have, a Power Point presentation! This is even more mysterious to me than a video. I'd really like to see examples of these... where can I find them?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   23 Sep 2013, 15:51
I don't know where or if you can see them. Consultants should have examples of them by now if you want to go there. I expect they'll be more available very soon because schools are definitely heading that way.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   29 Sep 2013, 18:26
The videos are a great idea. As far as I could see this self-assessment tool doesn't yet make room for it and it would be pretty strange trying to give yourself points for a video but it's all new and good. Meanwhile, I was glad this tool was available. It helped me to clarify my essays and improve my applications.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   08 Oct 2013, 10:32
I'd love to see some video samples but not if I have to go to an app consultant to see them. I've looked online and don't see any free examples of videos or power point presentations so I'm wondering how up-to-date the info is on the forums. I guess they will be available for viewing pretty soon since some of the top schools are already using them.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   15 Oct 2013, 07:54
I talked to someone who did a video interview for Kellogg and she said it was fine. She had everything prepared and in front of her for reference and after the first question (which took her two tries) she said she got the hang of it and felt more comfortable. The interview format was easier than the agonizing over essays - more personable and less formal than she expected and she actually felt good when it was over.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   22 Oct 2013, 15:36
I agree that it could be easier (certainly faster) than writing essays. Did she prepare seriously in any way? I hear that the questions can be about anything, personal or professional - not like the essay questions. Hard to prepare for 'anything'.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   31 Oct 2013, 14:10
I found someone who did this video 'essay' and he said yes, you definitely have to prepare for it by having notes ready and doing a few test runs so you can see yourself and hear yourself on video. Very important. Once you've figured out how to do it and gotten over the first couple of attempts it's easier. He also said he much preferred it to writing an essay. But not everyone would feel that way. I don't know if it will become a required element of the apps or not.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   10 Nov 2013, 10:26
It's going to become a required part of the application process. It's a way for the adcoms to get a better idea of who you are and how you handle yourself.
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