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For many travelers, charter vacations often turn out to cost considerably more than they originally seemed.
(A) they originally seemed
(B) they originally seem to
(C) they seemingly would cost originally
(D) it seemed originally
(E) it originally seemed they would

Researchers are studying plastics that dissolve at different rates, and they are finding that the so-called 'quick disintegration' plastics are taking more time to deteriorate than they originally seemed.
a) they originally seemed
b) they seemed originally
c) it seemed that they would originally
d) it originally seemed
e) it originally seemed they would

These two questions are the same, from 2001 Kaplan and an old GMAT 1986 paper test. I am having two different answers.

Can you give me a good explanation why you prefer one over the other

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21 Jan 2009, 01:08
B
A
I hope OA will be posted soon
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21 Jan 2009, 01:26
I will prefer the construction "subject + verb + adverb". Hence, for the second question, I will prefer answer B. However, in the first question, since there is no such option, I will go with A.
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21 Jan 2009, 10:20
agree w/ B, A
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21 Jan 2009, 14:19
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agree w/ B, A

How can you choose B for the first question and A for the second question? In my opinion, the answers should have the same grammar structure.
IMO, I would choose A and A. I would first picked B for the first question but in the second question, there is no option for "seem to".
What is OA?
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21 Jan 2009, 14:34
A for 1.
B for 2. (seemed originally is better than originally seemed).
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21 Jan 2009, 15:02
I am agree....IMO B and A....agree with Ritula also....hope OA will be posted.
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I will prefer the construction "subject + verb + adverb". Hence, for the second question, I will prefer answer B. However, in the first question, since there is no such option, I will go with A.
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21 Jan 2009, 15:04
I will be a bit controversial than other fellow clubbers and go for B and E

vivektripathi wrote:
For many travelers, charter vacations often turn out to cost considerably more than they originally seemed.
(A) they originally seemed
(B) they originally seem to
(C) they seemingly would cost originally
(D) it seemed originally
(E) it originally seemed they would
The sentence is written in general sense and hence I's rather avoid "would"s and "seemed"s. B is perfect.

Researchers are studying plastics that dissolve at different rates, and they are finding that the so-called 'quick disintegration' plastics are taking more time to deteriorate than they originally seemed.
a) they originally seemed
b) they seemed originally
c) it seemed that they would originally
d) it originally seemed
e) it originally seemed they would
This one is more tense driven ("are finding..."). E is clearly making such distinction.

These two questions are the same, from 2001 Kaplan and an old GMAT 1986 paper test. I am having two different answers.

Can you give me a good explanation why you prefer one over the other

Thanks
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21 Jan 2009, 16:27
Taken directly from Nytimes

. Their commissions are usually calculated on the base price alone, and many complaints they get from customers stem from the fact that charter vacations often turn out to cost much, much more than they originally seemed.
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21 Jan 2009, 17:42
icandy wrote:
Taken directly from Nytimes

. Their commissions are usually calculated on the base price alone, and many complaints they get from customers stem from the fact that charter vacations often turn out to cost much, much more than they originally seemed.

I think for the first question B is correct because of the agreement in the tenses.
no such option for the second.
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21 Jan 2009, 22:02
Then it shld be A for both.
cumon Vivek post the OA and make things clear.Let others also learn
icandy wrote:
Taken directly from Nytimes

. Their commissions are usually calculated on the base price alone, and many complaints they get from customers stem from the fact that charter vacations often turn out to cost much, much more than they originally seemed.
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02 Feb 2009, 01:01
vivektripathi wrote:
"seem to" question

For many travelers, charter vacations often turn out to cost considerably more than they originally seemed.
(A) they originally seemed
(B) they originally seem to
(C) they seemingly would cost originally
(D) it seemed originally
(E) it originally seemed they would

Researchers are studying plastics that dissolve at different rates, and they are finding that the so-called 'quick disintegration' plastics are taking more time to deteriorate than they originally seemed.
a) they originally seemed
b) they seemed originally
c) it seemed that they would originally
d) it originally seemed
e) it originally seemed they would

These two questions are the same, from 2001 Kaplan and an old GMAT 1986 paper test. I am having two different answers.

Can you give me a good explanation why you prefer one over the other

Thanks

1)A and 2)E

they originally seemed
we can say cost seem to be high.

plastics are taking more time to deteriorate than ... it seemed they would <take>
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02 Feb 2009, 03:21
It should be E for both.

This is a unusual question. Will post explanation once OA is out

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02 Feb 2009, 07:35
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It should be E for both.

This is a unusual question. Will post explanation once OA is out

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OA for Both questions is E........now pl explain why
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I came across the below explanation in one of the other forums........This is a copy and paste of the same

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'The tricky part is to choose between it and they. 'They' would imply that the plastics themselves first seemed to do one thing and then ended up doing another. The expletive 'it', the pronoun with no clear antecedent - makes more sense, it simply suggests that initial indications were misleading. Using 'it', it is necessary to include the phrase 'they would' to make it clear what seemed to be the case. So E is the best answer.

B would need to be in past tense, seemed. In fact, I often teach GMAT and TOEFL students that the words original (and its derivations) and first usually require past tense.

Furthermore, the "past future" of would in E is more precise than the simple past in A (or that B is lacking, in case you're going to ask if B would be correct if we changed seem to seemed). Since we're talking about something we'd learn after a certain point in the past, would is better.

For example:
• This Acura is a lot better than I thought it would be.
is better than
• This Acura is a lot better than I thought it was.
In the first example, we are saying that something turned out to be true. In the second example, we are saying that we were not aware of a fact that was true at that time.

And in the charter vacations question, there is no fact that the travelers were unaware of when they purchased the charter vacation--after the original purchase of the charter vacation (and probably toward the end of the vacation), the charter vacation turned out to be more costly than they had at first believed it would be.

An example to clarify the things..............
It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as those that are against a person.
(A) those that are against a
(B) those against a
(C) it is against a
(D) preventing those against a
(E) it is to prevent those against a

Answer is E, for the expletive it.

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02 Feb 2009, 08:11
vivektripathi wrote:
"seem to" question

For many travelers, charter vacations often turn out to cost considerably more than they originally seemed.
(A) they originally seemed------>'they' is ambiguous. Is it referring to travelers or charter vacations.
(B) they originally seem to ----> same as A
(C) they seemingly would cost originally---->same as A
(D) it seemed originally ---> Here "than" is used to compare costs and hence whatever phrase comes after "than" should imply cost of charter vacations. But in this sentence 'it' has no proper referrent."It" here seems to refer "charter vacations/cost". Also adverb "originally" is usually used before verbs(like "originally called")
(E) it originally seemed they would---> This is right usage.Also we use 'would' to express the idea of "future in the past" - to talk about a past action which had not yet happened at the time we are talking about.

Same explanation applies for below sentence.

Researchers are studying plastics that dissolve at different rates, and they are finding that the so-called 'quick disintegration' plastics are taking more time to deteriorate than they originally seemed.
a) they originally seemed
b) they seemed originally
c) it seemed that they would originally
d) it originally seemed
e) it originally seemed they would

I tried my best to address this. Please let me know if this is wrong or seems to be unconvincing.
These two questions are the same, from 2001 Kaplan and an old GMAT 1986 paper test. I am having two different answers.

Can you give me a good explanation why you prefer one over the other

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