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67. Several industries have recently switched at least partly from older technologies powered by fossil fuels to new technology powered by electricity. It is thus evident that less fossil fuel is being used as a result of the operations of these induestries than would have been used if these industries had retained their older technologies.

Which of the following, if true, most strengthen the argument above?

A) Many of the industries that have switched to at least partly to new technologies have increased their output.
B) Less fossil fuel was used to manufacture the machinery employed in the new technologies than was orginally used to manufacture the machinery employed in the older technologies.
C) More electricity is used to by those industries that have switched at least partly to the new technologies than by those industries that have not switched.
D) Some of the industries that have switched at least partly to the new technologies still use primarily technologies that are powered by fossil fuel.
E) The amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricty needed to power the new technologies is less than amount that would have been uesed to power the older technologies.
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Re: A 12th OG problem, pls help to explain. [#permalink] New post 27 Jul 2011, 11:10
Find the missing link first.

Given argument simply says that because these industries have switched from fossil fuel to electricity, the consumption of fossil fuel is reduced.

The missing link : The argument considers that industries are the ONLY places where fossil fule is used.

Now we have to choose an option which takes care of this missing link and also helps strengthening the argument.

Hence E is the best choice.

B is incorrect because
- B doesn't strengthen the argument
- B has Out of scope information
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OG: Fossil fuels vs electricity [#permalink] New post 06 Oct 2011, 04:18
I have some reservations regarding the OA:

The stimulus says that older technologies were powered by fossil fuel; whereas new technologies are powered by electricity. Now, the OA says that fossil fuel is needed to generate power for the new technologies. This is a direct contradiction with the stimulus.

Please explain.

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Re: OG: Fossil fuels vs electricity [#permalink] New post 08 Oct 2011, 21:26
^ As per the premise and OA, fossil fuel is used to generate electricity which in turn power the new technologies. Fossil fuel does not directly power the new machines, but does so indirectly.

The idea that you'll need to reconcile with is, generating electricity from fossil fuel has a better efficiency than directly burning fossil fuel to run the older machines. Kind of like how an electric train is more fuel efficient than an old steam engine. This will be true even if the power plant of the electric train is thermal!
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Re: OG: Fossil fuels vs electricity [#permalink] New post 08 Oct 2011, 23:31
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The idea that you'll need to reconcile with is, generating electricity from fossil fuel has a better efficiency than directly burning fossil fuel to run the older machines. Kind of like how an electric train is more fuel efficient than an old steam engine. This will be true even if the power plant of the electric train is thermal!


DexDee, what you are saying is that using electricity is more efficient than burning fossil fuel. But I don't think that this is what they are saying. What they are saying is simply that:

(1) They used to have machinery powered by fossil fuel
(2) Some industries have switched, at least partly, to powering their machines by electricity

and as a result:

(3) Less fossil fuel is being used

Where do they talk about efficiency?

Please explain.

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Re: OG: Fossil fuels vs electricity [#permalink] New post 09 Oct 2011, 00:16
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(2) Some industries have switched, at least partly, to powering their machines by electricity



The new technology uses electricity to power the machines. But where does the electricity come from? It can be from either of the two :

( 1 ) Renewable resources like wind, solar etc.

( 2 ) Non-renewable resources a.k.a fossil fuels.

Now, if the electricity were to be derived from a fossil fuel ( like coal ), the actual fossil fuel burned for the process of generating electricity that is required to power the new machines must be lesser than the (fossil fuel ) energy required to power the older machines.

Thus assuming OA to be true, strengthens the argument.

PS: Excuse me for veering into technical stuff! :?
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Re: OG: Fossil fuels vs electricity [#permalink] New post 09 Oct 2011, 00:22
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Now, if the electricity were to be derived from a fossil fuel ( like coal ), the actual fossil fuel burned for the process of generating electricity that is required to power the new machines must be lesser than the (fossil fuel ) energy required to power the older machines.


Yes, thanks a lot. That's the point I missed.
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Re: OG: Fossil fuels vs electricity [#permalink] New post 09 Oct 2011, 18:27
+1 E the Best
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Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2011, 01:20
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The question has been tagged as a question from the OG.

I am sure everyone already knows this but just want to restate the fact:

OFFICIAL GUIDE ANSWERS ARE NEVER WRONG !!!

Understanding the logic behind the OA is the only possible way to improve. Challenging the OA from GMAC is PURE WASTE OF TIME !!!

The answer to this question is indeed E. The logic behind it has already been explained above.
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Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2013, 00:53
why cant C be the answer.
E is asking us to think out of scope as from where is electricity being produced.
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Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2013, 12:57
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Let me try to help those, who might need some sort of support in understanding why B is wrong whereas E is the OA.
B. B talks about those machineries , which will be used to employ the new technology, would need less FF to get manufactured. Are we talking about the machine and machineries that we may need in our actual operation that is being discussed? No. B talks about some something that we don't know Can't say.
E. FF--> EP << FF itself. This is what was asked to strengthen if we look into the conclusion.
In case you need further help , feel free to share your line of thought
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Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly [#permalink] New post 09 Sep 2013, 00:44
Two questions:-
1. What is EP
2. Why C cant be the answer
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Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly [#permalink] New post 09 Sep 2013, 00:52
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Hey Nilabh,

Ep is eletric powered.
C says,
More electricity is used to by those industries that have switched at least partly to the new technologies than by those industries that have not switched.
here the author says Electric consumption has risen, but here there is no hints given for the FF. Does only EP matters to us?
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Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly [#permalink] New post 09 Sep 2013, 15:04
Thnaks for your reponse.
the first line says:-
Several industries have recently switched at least partly from older technologies powered by fossil fuels to new technology powered by electricity

Now if they have switched to electricity then their Electricity consumption will rise right?
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Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly [#permalink] New post 09 Sep 2013, 20:23
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out of 100 , how much shud be several?
10?
20?30?32? we don;t know it that way. that's the trap in several
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Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly [#permalink] New post 08 Feb 2014, 11:23
this answer would have made sense if they stated fossil fuels generated electricity
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Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2014, 00:51
PREMISE 1. Several industries have recently switched at least partly from older technologies powered by fossil fuels to new technology powered by electricity.
CONCLUSION Less fossil fuel is being used as a result of the operations of these industries than would have been used if these industries had retained their older technologies.

ASSSUMPTION- ELECTRICITY NEEDS LESS FOSSIL FUEL FOR ITS GENERATION THAN WOULD DIRECT USE OF FOSSIL FUEL ENTAIL IN COMPLETION OF GIVEN USE........

Which of the following, if true, most strengthen the argument above?

E) The amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricty needed to power the new technologies is less than amount that would have been uesed to power the older technologies.CORRECT....
Re: Several industries have recently switched at least partly   [#permalink] 09 Feb 2014, 00:51
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