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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 01 Jul 2012, 20:19
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First, if we're talking health care (and actually probably not only health care), recruiting is primarily domestic unless you're willing to work in your home country. At least this is the case for marketing, I'm less familiar with finance, but assume it's the same.

Switching industries and functions is difficult but not impossible. Switching industries and switching functions are both do-able, I think switching industries is probably a little easier.


In case of switching industries lets say from Intel engineer->Mckinsey consultant would my chances of landing into job depend on the summer internship and would my summer internship acceptance depends on the grades in mba ?

if there are any other points that should be taken care please advice


I guess I don't really understand what you're asking.
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 01 Jul 2012, 22:07
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In case of switching industries lets say from Intel engineer->Mckinsey consultant would my chances of landing into job depend on the summer internship and would my summer internship acceptance depends on the grades in mba ?

if there are any other points that should be taken care please advice


I guess I don't really understand what you're asking.

I am an electronics engineer in Intel. i am evaluating my chances of landing into mckinsey after mba.
1) Would my chances of landing into mckinsey depend on the summer internship ??
2) Also, how would i convince a consulting firm for internship e.g. would my technical background be a hindrance
3) Can i improve my chances of landing into consulting by performing well in MBA exams

I hope i clarified, please tell if i am not clear
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2012, 07:36
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In case of switching industries lets say from Intel engineer->Mckinsey consultant would my chances of landing into job depend on the summer internship and would my summer internship acceptance depends on the grades in mba ?

if there are any other points that should be taken care please advice


I guess I don't really understand what you're asking.

I am an electronics engineer in Intel. i am evaluating my chances of landing into mckinsey after mba.
1) Would my chances of landing into mckinsey depend on the summer internship ??
2) Also, how would i convince a consulting firm for internship e.g. would my technical background be a hindrance
3) Can i improve my chances of landing into consulting by performing well in MBA exams

I hope i clarified, please tell if i am not clear


Hello Vikram,

I am no expert in this, but I'll share what I've learned from my research. so please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

1. It wouldn't "depend" on the summer intership, but if you DO get an intership at McKinsey and perform well, you'll have a great chance of landing an offer from M.

2. You can convince the firm by doing well on the case interview.

3. Not really. Again, you will have to ACE the case interview to improve your chances to getting an offer from M.

To answer your overarching question: Your engineering background will not break your candidacy at a consulting firm.
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2012, 07:55
just a thought, can i get into mckinsey WITHOUT MBA, i mean if i get a stellar gmat 760+ can i get into mckinsey right away. mckinsey consults semiconductor companies as well. would my experience in semiconductors + high gmat(showing good analytical abilities) be able to get me into mckinsey
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2012, 08:43
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just a thought, can i get into mckinsey WITHOUT MBA, i mean if i get a stellar gmat 760+ can i get into mckinsey right away. mckinsey consults semiconductor companies as well. would my experience in semiconductors + high gmat(showing good analytical abilities) be able to get me into mckinsey


I am not sure of your background/experience.

But let me try to answer your q. Yes you can get into McKinsey without MBA as an experienced hire. But your resume and experience have to be stellar to get an interview.
Can someone chime in with more insight on the matter?
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 05 Jul 2012, 12:54
Wow did not know this thread was still going. Great stuff everyone.

To refocus back to the topic of MBA rotational programs:

What's the career path for rotational programs? What happens 10-15 years after you finish a program? From my understanding, you do a two year program and then coming out of it get put in a managerial type role. What do most people do after this? Just keep climbing this corporate ladder? I know the answer probably depends on the company & function, but a general understanding would be nice. Can't seem to find too much online.

One other question: These rotational programs often times have the word "leadership" in them - thus implying a degree of managerial responsibility. Is this a farce? During these rotational programs are you really leading people? Or just being your own "personal leader"?
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One other question: These rotational programs often times have the word "leadership" in them - thus implying a degree of managerial responsibility. Is this a farce? During these rotational programs are you really leading people? Or just being your own "personal leader"?
The majority of the "management" straight out of MBA are managing processes or brands. However, if you choose to work in a plant or in sales, you most likely will manage a line of workers or sales reps in your region.
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 13 Oct 2012, 10:06
Good thread.

I think some of the best LDP programs for manufacturing: Amazon (pathways), Eaton, Whirlpool, BASF, DowChemical

Oil: Exxon, Chevron, BP

Finance: Seems like every company has a good one.
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 16 Oct 2012, 23:13
Since we're discussing intell, anyone know about other LDP programs in the Bay Area? I'm thinking adobe, apple, google, maybe tesla, etc.
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 24 Oct 2012, 08:36
Great thread. One company that I have heard about in the Bay Area is Intuit. They have a cross functional LDP; it should be worthwhile to take a look.
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I could be wrong. I believe, in general, technology or entrepreneurial firms do not have LDPs. There are several reasons: 1) they have a meritocracy culture, so they will ID talent internally based on past performance in the company; 2) they are not short on talent pool; 3) some may have high turn over because of talent competition in the Bay Area, wasting resource to develop someone, who will jump ship; 4) company too small to worry about succession planning (Musk is probably not concerned about his replacement).
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 28 Oct 2012, 17:18
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What companies have strong LDPs in the healthcare/biotech area? What are the job opps like after completion?


I would say for the most part, health care companies are not general management type rotational programs, they are generally either marketing LDPs OR finance LDPs, at least if you are looking at products (biotech/pharma/devices). Services/delivery and insurance are often a bit different.

So, many have commercial/marketing LDPs. These would work very similarly to what a CPG company would. You might rotate through different brands or different stages of marketing (market research, early stage, late stage) and then you just pick or interview for a spot on a team at the end. I don't think it's necessarily a huge jump once you finish your LDP. Marketing programs tend to have a very set promotional structure...do this for two years, then do this for four years, etc.

Pharma/biotech companies almost always include a sales rotation, and this might be one of only two rotations.

Pretty much all of the major companies have these. Amgen, Genentech, Merck, J&J, Medtronic, BMS, Lilly. Probably many more that I'm not thinking of off the top of my head.

I think Cigna and Aetna both have LDP programs that do rotate through different functions. I don't know how they exit out though.

Hospital/provider/delivery is just a whole different beast I think. There are a couple that were mentioned earlier that have specific MBA recruiting, but others you have to come through residencies (for which the pay really sucks to start out) and some hospitals just aren't structured the same as a corporation. You might have a performance improvement/quality improvement job in which you end up doing a mix of operations and finance, rather than rotating through departments.



As mentioned above, I've noticed that many Pharma companies appear to offer either Marketing or Finance LDPs/rotations. If anyone out there would care to surmise, do you believe that joining one of the Finance rotations would be the beginning of the track to CFO?

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As mentioned above, I've noticed that many Pharma companies appear to offer either Marketing or Finance LDPs/rotations. If anyone out there would care to surmise, do you believe that joining one of the Finance rotations would be the beginning of the track to CFO?

The answer depends on the company and the rotational program. Every company has a core functional competency. Some companies are strong in marketing, some in finance, others in operations. Companies tend to groom its future leaders from that functional pool. Although your initial rotations may start in a specific function, you may end up doing something completely different depending on your potential. There are many CEOs who start in a functional LDP, and transition to a broader rotation later in their career.

With that said, it is adviseable to join a functional LDP in a function you are interested in. Your performance and career potential depends on how you do initially. After that, the sky is the limit. You are not limited to CFO or treasurer, if you join a finance LDP.
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2013, 05:11
All the programs are top leadership development programs if the effort applied to them is sincere. Growth graph may be steady or rapid depending upon the situation and the resources available but sure results of getting success is always there whatever being the stream to to which the person is related.
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 30 May 2013, 22:06
Interesting Thread. LDP sounds Good.
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 16 Nov 2013, 15:29
Does anyone have a consensus list of programs and what their core MBA programs are?
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 26 Nov 2013, 07:49
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Does anyone have a consensus list of programs and what their core MBA programs are?

There’s not a list out there. I would advise that you look at what industry/function you want to pursue, and then research some of the leading companies to see if there is a LDP available.
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Re: Top Leadership Development Programs [#permalink] New post 01 Mar 2014, 08:05
Having gone through an LDP/Rotational program myself, here are a few things that I can say:

1. Figure out which industry you want to be in -- if you don't know, go with consulting :p
2. Within your field of interests, find out what the big players are and chances are they have some programs
3. One needs to be at the job for at least 6-8 months to really understand and contribute, so don't pick a program that has many short rotations
4. LDP does not necessarily guarantee success. With the program comes high expectations, and one needs to exceed that to be really successful.
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