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Well, I have almost reached to the end. So far, I have been admitted to Tuck (no scholarship), Ross (scholarship of 10% of the tuition) and Tepper (scholarship of almost half tuition).
I am from europe and after the MBA I would like to join to a consulting firm. Afterwards I would like to start my own business in an environmental technology field. Without scholarships I would choose Tuck because I think I would have it easier to find a post-MBA job in a consulting firm. But with scholarship in the game I don't know if it is worth it to pay more, as I may find the same opportunities in the other schools. I like Ross because it has the MAP project, because the academic demanding is not as high as it is in Tuck (which means I could be able to involve myself in more tasks other than study) and because is a bigger university (I am from europe and I would like to live the experience of studying in big american student community). Finally Tepper offers me a substantially better schollarship and has a good technology reputation (I want to create a company in a technology field, therefore it might be important to have studied in Tepper).
I am also concerned about the problems of obtaining a visa after the MBA, and maybe companies who recruit in Tuck are more willing sponsor an international student. What do you think?
Anyway, Tuck is by far the best choice and even with no $$ the long term ROI is probably better given their die-hard alumni network (although the size of it is much smaller than Ross). _________________
How do you measure the ROI? is there any place to find some data about it?
Personally I think the whole idea of ROI calculations is completely bunk. I mean how on earth are we suppose to accurately project our earnings over the next 30+ years with an MBA vs without one? It's asinine IMO. Nonetheless, here you go
Haha, as IHateTheGMAT pointed out, there is no real way to measure ROI. When thinking about the ROI for yourself, think about what is really important for you in the future. As I pointed out after my ROI comment, Tuck's Alumni network is prehaps the most die hard of any school. That will be very useful in the long term regardless of what you want to do with your degree IMO. _________________
Are you returning to Europe post-MBA? If so, you might want to talk to Antmavel, he went to Tuck and is now back in the UK. He could give you an idea on placement there.
If you're aiming from consulting post-MBA, Tuck has an advantage over Ross, but not to a huge degree. You can easily find out for yourself by looking at consulting placement at each school.
The one thing you have to remember about Ross' MAP project is that you list your top 10 and then you get assigned to a company. There is no guarantee that you'll get an international MAP project (if you're gunning for one) or if there are only a few companies in your field of interest, you might not get to work with them. Just keep that in mind.
If you want to consult I the big consulting companies are pretty good about sponsoring international students.
I think your comment about experiencing life at a big US university is a valid one! Don't dismiss it!
I'd say the Ross money is insignificant so I'd look at it more like Tuck vs Ross vs CMU. I had to make a similar decision with my Consortium app. where you are required to rank your schools. I went back and forth on Ross and Tuck and in the end I decided on Ross because I felt as a career changer the MAP project would help me establish some work experience and allow me to show my passion for post MBA goals. I love both of the programs in a unique way, when the economy was better and I was thinking about brushing up more on my finance I gave Tuck the edge. Even though consulting is still my post MBA goal I felt I just had a better fit at Ross.
This is a very personal decision on fit. My summary is that if you are going to be a career changer I think MAP is a big deal if your not really making a drastic career change you might be better off at Tuck.
After the MBA I would like to stay in the US. I don't have a company where I want to work but I am now in operations and I would like to pass to consulting (post mba) or create my own company (I think I will do it after paying my debt, therefore consulting is the prior step).
A doubt I have is if the position that companies offer to Tuck students are the same that they offer to Tepper Students. Because a company can recruit in Tuck, Ross and Tepper but they can hire people for different positions of different quality/responsability.
I'm starting to find these threads very humorous, just to see how people pick schools. As stated earlier I really like Tuck, I've applied there but I picked Ross over Tuck for some personal reasons.
I think if you're asking if the type of jobs people get offered at CMU, and Ross, are sub par to Tuck then the idea of rankings/M7/etc. has altered your perspective of the opportunities available to students at top 10 schools. As many others on this board have stated that just attending a top school isn't going to get you into M/B/B you are really going to have to do the work and at that point there is basically no difference between these schools.
Thank you for your posts! A doubt I have is if the position that companies offer to Tuck students are the same that they offer to Ross(?) Students. Because a company can recruit in Tuck, Ross and Tepper but they can hire people for different positions of different quality/responsability.
I assume you mean positions offered to Tuck students aren't the same offered to Ross students?
That may be true in certain industries or with specific companies, but I don't think there is that much difference between the schools. Ross is a very well respected MBA program and so is Tuck.
If you're concerned about it, contact each school's career office and ask about companies that hire for the position your looking for. You find out pretty quickly whether or not your suspicion is true.
Final decisions are in: Berkeley: Denied with interview Tepper: Waitlisted with interview Rotman: Admitted with scholarship (withdrawn) Random French School: Admitted to MSc in Management with scholarship (...