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Attorneys are questioning 11 potential jurors about their ability to serve on a jury and decide a case fairly. Seven individuals will be selected to serve on the jury. If each potential juror has an equal chance of being selected, what is the probability that Tamara and Inga are chosen for the jury?

2/11
2/7
21/55
4/11
34/55


A direct probabilistic approach:
First person to be chosen one of the two girls - 2/11
Second person to be chosen to be the other girl - 1/10
The probability to chose both girls - (2/11)*(1/10) = 1/55.
The two girls can be chosen anywhere in the list of the 7 jurors, therefore the final probability is (1/55)*11C7 = (1/55)*(7*6/2) = 21/55.




Dint understand the last step : The two girls can be chosen anywhere in the list of the 7 jurors, therefore the final probability is (1/55)*11C7 = (1/55)*(7*6/2) = 21/55.

1/55 * 11C7 cannot be equal to 1/55*(7*6/2).
11C7= 330.
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smartass666 wrote:
Attorneys are questioning 11 potential jurors about their ability to serve on a jury and decide a case fairly. Seven individuals will be selected to serve on the jury. If each potential juror has an equal chance of being selected, what is the probability that Tamara and Inga are chosen for the jury?

2/11
2/7
21/55
4/11
34/55


A direct probabilistic approach:
First person to be chosen one of the two girls - 2/11
Second person to be chosen to be the other girl - 1/10
The probability to chose both girls - (2/11)*(1/10) = 1/55.
The two girls can be chosen anywhere in the list of the 7 jurors, therefore the final probability is (1/55)*11C7 = (1/55)*(7*6/2) = 21/55.




Dint understand the last step : The two girls can be chosen anywhere in the list of the 7 jurors, therefore the final probability is (1/55)*11C7 = (1/55)*(7*6/2) = 21/55.

1/55 * 11C7 cannot be equal to 1/55*(7*6/2).
11C7= 330.


Thank you, you are right: it should be 1/55*(7C2). The two girls can be chosen anywhere in the list of the final 7 jurors.
Corrected my original post.
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Attorneys are questioning 11 potential jurors about their ability to serve on a jury and decide a case fairly. Seven individuals will be selected to serve on the jury. If each potential juror has an equal chance of being selected, what is the probability that Tamara and Inga are chosen for the jury?

A. 2/11
B. 2/7
C. 21/55
D. 4/11
E. 34/55


Easier way would be to consider all 11 people in a row where the first 7 will be selected for the jury. We want Tamara and Inga to be among those 7: P=7/11*6/10=21/55.

Answer: C.
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Attorneys are questioning 11 potential jurors about their ability to serve on a jury and decide a case fairly. Seven individuals will be selected to serve on the jury. If each potential juror has an equal chance of being selected, what is the probability that Tamara and Inga are chosen for the jury?

A. 2/11
B. 2/7
C. 21/55
D. 4/11
E. 34/55


Number of ways to select Tamara & Inga "for sure" amongst the 7 out of 11 jurors are: 2C2 * 9C5
Total number ways to select 7 jurors of 11 jurors are 11C7

Probability is (2C2*9C5)/11C7 = 21/55
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Hi,

Though i got the answer right, i initially approach did not yield the right answer.
Please help me identify the error in my thought process

Chance that the two girls are selected = 1- (Chance that none of the 2 girls are selected)
i.e - Ways that none of the two girls are selected = 9C7
- Total ways of selecting 7 of 11 people = 11C7

Answer = 1-(9C7/11C7) = 1-(6/55) = 49/55
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I chose the combinatorics:
we need to choose 7 people:
7C11 = 55
from 7, we need to have both of them. so 2C7 = 22
probability to be both are thus 22/55
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Chance that the two girls are selected = 1- (Chance that none of the 2 girls are selected)


This is incorrect.

Chance that the two girls are selected = 1- (Chance that none of the 2 girls are selected + Chance that only one of the two girls is selected)

There are 3 possible cases:
1. Both the girls are not selected.
2. Only one girl is selected.
3. Both girls are selected.

It is actually easier to deal with "Both girls are selected" directly.

No of ways of selecting both girls = 9C5 (Select both girls in 1 way and then select other 5 jurors in 9C5 ways)
No of ways of selecting 7 jurors out of 11 = 11C7

Req Probability = 9C5/11C7


What is the probability, through combinations, of chosing only one girl?
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Attorneys are questioning 11 potential jurors about their ability to serve on a jury and decide a case fairly. Seven individuals will be selected to serve on the jury. If each potential juror has an equal chance of being selected, what is the probability that Tamara and Inga are BOTH chosen for the jury?

A. 2/11
B. 2/7
C. 21/55
D. 4/11
E. 34/55


P(Tamara and Inga are BOTH chosen for the jury) = (# of ways to choose 7 people that include Tamara and Inga)/(TOTAL # of ways to choose 7 people)

# of ways to choose 7 people that include Tamara and Inga
Stage 1: place Tamara and Inga on the jury. This can be accomplished in 1 way
Stage 2: select 5 more people from the remaining 9 people. This can be accomplished in 9C5 ways (= 126 ways)
By the Fundamental Counting Principle (FCP), we can complete the 2 stages (and thus create a jury with Tamara and Inga) in (1)(126) ways (= 126 ways)


TOTAL # of ways to choose 7 people
We can choose 7 people from 11 people in 11C7 ways
11C7 = 330

So, P(Tamara and Inga are BOTH chosen for the jury) = 126/330
= 63/165
= 21/55

Answer: C

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Attorneys are questioning 11 potential jurors about their ability to serve on a jury and decide a case fairly. Seven individuals will be selected to serve on the jury. If each potential juror has an equal chance of being selected, what is the probability that Tamara and Inga are chosen for the jury?

A. 2/11
B. 2/7
C. 21/55
D. 4/11
E. 34/55


If Tamara and Inga are chosen for the jury, this means that remaining jurors can be chosen in\(9C_5\) ways

Number of ways of selecting 7 jurors from 11 potential jurors = \(11C_7\) ways

Probability = 9C5 / 11C7 = 21/55

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If Tamara and Inga are chosen for the jury, this means that remaining jurors can be chosen in\(9C_5\) ways

Exactly KanishkM !

I explain to my students that they should think Tamara and Inga "took" two places in advance, so that we have in fact 7-2 = 5 places available, to be occupied from people chosen among 11-2 individuals.

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