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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 23 Oct 2008, 14:29
bostonsparky wrote:
sitemason.vanderbilt.edu/vanderbiltview/articles/2008/09/30/new-faculty-jim-schorr.65324

that he is moving to Vandy (ex-sen bill frist recently took a position there as well). Is he leaving Haas entirely? And if so, who's going to replace him as teacher of the social enterprise course?

Unfortunately I won't be able to visit the campus until the Spring (I'm a peace corps volunteer) but I'm a huge fan of San Francisco. All the things I like about my hometown of Boston(stuff to do, bright people, international blend, politically active) but with better weather.


thanks for the link. I'm checking into that for you. I'm sure there are enough top Social Enterprise/Net Impact professors here at Haas that it won't affect us that much. In fact, the Net Impact conference in Philly is coming up and probably 20% of the class is going. :)
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 23 Oct 2008, 17:49
At the event tonight they gave us another stat, they received 325 applicants with GMAT scores 750 and above last year and rejected 87% of them.

It made me feel better at least... ;-)

OH and that three people last year had Obama give them recommendations... LOL. I wish my connections could compete with that.

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For Archival Purposes:

It has not been posted on the website yet, but I got a handout from school. Here are some vital stats for those of you interested in applying.

So as expected, Acceptance rate dropped to near all time lows, yield has gone up close to 5%, GMAT inched up. GPA *range* went up, even though the average went down.

Surprisingly, 5% more came from consulting, 3% fewer from Financial Services, and 3% more from Banking.

Class of 2010:
Application Received: 3779
Offers of Admission: 442
Entering Class Size: 241
Yield: 54.5% (compared to around 50% last year)
Acceptance Rate: 11.7% (compared to 14% last year)

UG GPA Average: 3.54 (compared to 3.57 last year, I guess we got more stupid :P)
Mid 80% GPA range: 3.30 - 3.87
Avg GMAT: 714
Middle 80% GMAT: 670-760
Countries Rep: 36
Women: 30%
International: 39%
US Minorities: 33% (African, Hispanic, Native, Asian, East Indian/Pakistani Americans)
Median WE: 5 years
Middle 80% WE: 3-8 years
Median Age: 28
Age Range: 24-38

Class of 2009 (last year):
http://mba.haas.berkeley.edu/community_02.html
Applications Received 3,276
Enrolled Students 239
Women 31%
Minority Students 34%
International Students 39%
Countries Represented 34
Median Age 28
Age Range 23-40
Median Years WE 5 years
Average GMAT 710
Range of Middle 80% 660-760
Average UG GPA 3.57
Range of Middle 80% 3.25-3.83
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 23 Oct 2008, 18:20
Quick question about recommenders... I was thinking of having a former client of mine be a recommender (because I am wearing out my current two with my previous applications). Do you think this would be alright? Tonight they said a direct supervisor which I will have, and another person in upper management - do you think a client is equal to 'upper management'? I'm a consultant, so technically, he was our person of authority. He's also an executive at a government agency, if that matters at all.
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 23 Oct 2008, 22:17
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Quick question about recommenders... I was thinking of having a former client of mine be a recommender (because I am wearing out my current two with my previous applications). Do you think this would be alright? Tonight they said a direct supervisor which I will have, and another person in upper management - do you think a client is equal to 'upper management'? I'm a consultant, so technically, he was our person of authority. He's also an executive at a government agency, if that matters at all.


a client would be fine as long as you have worked with the person SIGNIFICANTLY and they can speak to your skills, behavior, enthusiasm, etc... For someone who is a consultant, that would work if your client fits the above criteria. :)

Yeah, Pete Johnson and Stephanie Fujii mentioned that stat to us at our orientation week too. Kinda scary how they rejected so many 750+ people!
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Oct 2008, 10:37
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At the event tonight they gave us another stat, they received 325 applicants with GMAT scores 750 and above last year and rejected 87% of them.


So, 13% acceptance rate, huh? At least that's better than the rest of the applicant pool hanging around 10%. (trying to look at this positively)
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Oct 2008, 12:41
kryzak,

I'm asking the same question of the admissions office and HSAs at Haas but I thought I'd get your input as well: If I am interested in visiting in the spring sometime do you have a sense of when the ideal time would be? I will definitely visit when students are there, but beyond that, is there anything I should keep in mind other than exams when scheduling my trip out there? Any special weekends when a lot of students are out of town or anything like that? If you tell me that you're focused on the here and now and haven't had a chance to look that far ahead, I'll understand completely.

I was at that info session in NYC Wednesday and was struck by Peter's nugget about 750+ GMATs as well. That's scary stuff that I think I would have preferred not to hear. Onward and upward, I guess! :roll:
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Oct 2008, 13:20
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At the event tonight they gave us another stat, they received 325 applicants with GMAT scores 750 and above last year and rejected 87% of them.


So, 13% acceptance rate, huh? At least that's better than the rest of the applicant pool hanging around 10%. (trying to look at this positively)


I thought the rest of the applicant pool was about 13% too?
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Oct 2008, 13:34
Having read a lot of verbiage on the subject, it's not just Haas that rejects a high number of high-GMAT scorers. I bet you'll find the other top 10-15 schools generally have similar rejection rates. With their volume of quality applicants, they can easily pick and choose from plenty of 700+ scorers.....it's about creating as diverse a class as possible. Why should they take another White or Indian male banker with a 750 when they can take a Bulgarian concert pianist or a Kenyan marathon champion that got a 710? Take a look at http://gmatclub.com/wiki/WhoIsApplyingWhere2008 and look at the nationalities of those who got into the top schools for further evidence.

The key is to show something about you that is as unique as that concert pianist or marathoner. If not, can you really blame them for dinging you?
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Oct 2008, 21:10
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kryzak,

I'm asking the same question of the admissions office and HSAs at Haas but I thought I'd get your input as well: If I am interested in visiting in the spring sometime do you have a sense of when the ideal time would be? I will definitely visit when students are there, but beyond that, is there anything I should keep in mind other than exams when scheduling my trip out there? Any special weekends when a lot of students are out of town or anything like that? If you tell me that you're focused on the here and now and haven't had a chance to look that far ahead, I'll understand completely.

I was at that info session in NYC Wednesday and was struck by Peter's nugget about 750+ GMATs as well. That's scary stuff that I think I would have preferred not to hear. Onward and upward, I guess! :roll:


Hi there,

good question. Well, if you sign up for a 2nd year class, then any time between Feb-April is good. Generally midterms are around end of March when spring break is, so that's not a good time. Any time in Feb or any time in April is probably best. Same goes for 1st year classes (Strategy, Operations, Ethics, and Leadership), where they end around March, so people tend to be a bit overstressed at that point.

Don't worry about the 750+ GMAT stat. Pete is saying that to convey the point that GMAT isn't everything, and that they look at ALL parts of your application. So if you have a good story to tell, that is sometimes more important than a GMAT score alone. :)

Good luck, don't give up, and stay positive! We hope to see you for Super Saturday and Days at Haas!
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 12:15
I have a question on Essay #1...

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If you could change one thing you've done in your life, what would it be, and how would you do it differently? (250 word maximum)


Is the adcom looking for a specific event/action or could it be, for example, a lifestyle choice. I would like to talk about how I wish I would have gotten involved in volunteering at a younger age, but not sure if they want a more specific mistake/regret scenario.
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 13:41
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I have a question on Essay #1...

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If you could change one thing you've done in your life, what would it be, and how would you do it differently? (250 word maximum)


Is the adcom looking for a specific event/action or could it be, for example, a lifestyle choice. I would like to talk about how I wish I would have gotten involved in volunteering at a younger age, but not sure if they want a more specific mistake/regret scenario.


We didn't get this question last year, but I would approach it the same way as any essays. You can talk about a lifestyle choice, but just make sure you support it with concrete and specific examples, and why you would have changed it. That is the meat of the essay.
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 17:43
Hi kryzak,

I had a quick question regarding the average age of students at Haas. I am currently 28/F/Taiwanese-American, and had thought about applying this year. I wouldn't be able to make R2 (still pending on taking the GMATs), and had contemplated R3, although I'm not sure how that would fare given this year's competitive pool.

I'm interested in pursuing a career in non-profit technology. I worked 5 years in corporate IT (systems developer/project manager) for a large pharmaceutical company, and I just finished a year as an AmeriCorps volunteer in NYC (working with the anti-hunger community via soup kitchens/food pantries --- I know, huge change from pharma!). I've just signed on to be an independent systems consultant for a non-profit IT consulting org next month.

Will it hurt if I push back another year?
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 17:55
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Hi kryzak,

I had a quick question regarding the average age of students at Haas. I am currently 28/F/Taiwanese-American, and had thought about applying this year. I wouldn't be able to make R2 (still pending on taking the GMATs), and had contemplated R3, although I'm not sure how that would fare given this year's competitive pool.

I'm interested in pursuing a career in non-profit technology. I worked 5 years in corporate IT (systems developer/project manager) for a large pharmaceutical company, and I just finished a year as an AmeriCorps volunteer in NYC (working with the anti-hunger community via soup kitchens/food pantries --- I know, huge change from pharma!). I've just signed on to be an independent systems consultant for a non-profit IT consulting org next month.

Will it hurt if I push back another year?


Hi there,

Round 3 is generally more competitive, but with your pretty unique experience and goals, I think you could probably make a good case and have a good chance of getting an interview. Of course, moving it back one year (and getting more non-profit experience) will definitely help (and won't hurt) your chances. Berkeley's average age is somewhere around 28, and there are quite a few of us 30+ people here (over 15%).

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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 18:00
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The key is to show something about you that is as unique as that concert pianist or marathoner. If not, can you really blame them for dinging you?


Oh yeah of course, I just reiterated it on the board because a lot of people focus too much on the GMAT score. So it just served as proof that yes, the whole package is what matters most. :)
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 18:11
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I thought the rest of the applicant pool was about 13% too?


I think it ended up around 11.7% this year.
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 26 Oct 2008, 20:03
I'm pretty much set w/ my essays but am really struggling to come up with something for short essay #1 about what my biggest regret is. Anyone care to share what they wrote?
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 26 Oct 2008, 20:27
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I'm pretty much set w/ my essays but am really struggling to come up with something for short essay #1 about what my biggest regret is. Anyone care to share what they wrote?


Great place to address whatever is the weakest part of your app I think rather than the optional essays. Obviously don't write it about 'I wish I had done better on my GMAT' but maybe for example out of work extra curriculars once you graduated college. I know a lot of people who didn't do much for that when they started their 1st job out of work because they (understandably) wanted to see how much of their schedule work would take up before committing to anything else. Easy to then transition into the out of work activities you've done as you got more settled.

This is spoken from a 27-year old's perspective so if you are younger forgive me if the above doesn't help much.
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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2008, 09:26
I uploaded this scrappy footage I took of Haas when I visited campus last year. Sorry for the shakiness...there was some event going on and I didn't want to look like a total tourist. Anyway it should give you a look at the campus if you haven't seen it yet:

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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2008, 09:37
Seasick....so, so, so seasick....... :wink:

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I uploaded this scrappy footage I took of Haas when I visited campus last year. Sorry for the shakiness...there was some event going on and I didn't want to look like a total tourist. Anyway it should give you a look at the campus if you haven't seen it yet:

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Re: Calling all Berkeley-Haas Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2008, 09:47
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Seasick....so, so, so seasick....... :wink:


Okay maybe I should title the video "walking Haas in a drunken stupor"...since who knows, maybe this is how it will look to most students at some point anyway? :P
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