EdJ wrote:
Jterm2011 wrote:
So I just got off the WL at a couple of schools. Both very much at the Wharton level in terms of brand. I am delighted but am still holding out for Wharton (where I am on the WL) because its where I have always wanted to go. I do hope someone from the adcom or the school is reading this but I just wanted to say the one area the school has disappointed me in is its treatment of WLers. Both places I got into have been very forthcoming in terms of timing etc. One even spoke gave estimates about how many people were on the WL and when they would trim it. I am not saying that Wharton needs to be so clear but atleast something more than 'we will get back to you by July 18".
Also the sheer number of folk on the WL is something that confuses me. Wharton has a very solid yield and you would think that there is no need to WL so many people. (i think someone said the number is probably between 150-200). We are 2 months away from school beginning and it just makes no sense why so many people are still on it. A guy I went to school with is international and he still is on the WL. I feel for him because he needs to start working on his visa for another school, and even if he does get into W, go through the process of changing it and maybe not being able to do so
Anyways I know I am venting a bit. I love Wharton, and would pick it over any other place. But they are a bit frustrating for a school of such pedigree. I mean even some of the communications to WL had typos in them. The whole admissions operations seems a bit lacking when compared to a couple to similar schools especially when it comes to people who have been waiting for the school for months
Very valid points. Any current students on the forum have any idea why this is so?
Not a current student but here's my guess on why they waitlist so many people:
When they construct a class they try to get a blend of bankers, consultants, IT guys, military, entrepreneurs, foreigners, women, yadda yadda. When the yield #s start trickling in and if, for example, they see they are low on Military guys, they want to have Military guys on the wait list to replace them with. Now take this example and expand it to the many different backgrounds/profiles that schools look for and you can see that the schools need at least a few people on the WL from each category. Furthermore, you need to consider the Waitlist yield, as in who is going to stay on the waitlist, and who is going to accept a spot from the waitlist if offered. I think if you back calculate all these #s you could probably come up with a reasonable estimate of how many you need for the waitlist and the # would be relatively high.
Let me illustrate with an oversimplified calc.
Let's say there are 10 MBA candidate profiles the school has in mind for their class. The adcom expects that on average, 4 people will enroll from the waitlist for
each profile. The waitlist yield is 20% (between people removing themselves from WL, people not getting an offer from the Wait list, and people declining an admissions offer).
Given these assumptions, you would need 200 Waitlist candidates to fill out your class.
200 / 10 = 20 Waitlisters per profile
20 WLers at 20% yield = 4 Enrolled students
No idea if these assumptions are reasonable or not but I think that could explain it. Feel free to pick my calc apart.
And congrats on getting in to other great schools but hopefully the WL math works out in your favor at Wharton!