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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   06 Jun 2008, 22:27
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From what I've been seeing, the Anderson network in San Francisco's investment banking community is really something to be reckoned with. I think you'll find just as many Anderson grads in SF I-Banking as you will M7 grads.


I hear you, but as a career-switcher to banking I'm a little concerned about going to SF. I've been talking to several people about the value of the network you develop starting out in NY. I think if you went to a mid-tier like JMP or Thomas Weisel that is based in SF you'd be fine, but I'm wondering how great an advantage you would have at Goldman or Morgan Stanley being in NY over SF.

I love Anderson and would be very happy to get an acceptance there this fall, but after thinking about it a little deeper, I see why a lot of people have UCLA as a backup to the other top finance schools. It's not a knock against Anderson per se, but more a result of their alumni's geographic concentration on the West Coast. The brand just isn't as strong nationally and that is a fact. People always talk about the best school by ranking, but I think it's really more about the best brand. What school has that certain Je-ne-sais-quoi? What school makes everyone else on this board jealous when you get an admittance? That is the power of the brand.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   07 Jun 2008, 08:48
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From what I've been seeing, the Anderson network in San Francisco's investment banking community is really something to be reckoned with. I think you'll find just as many Anderson grads in SF I-Banking as you will M7 grads.


I hear you, but as a career-switcher to banking I'm a little concerned about going to SF. I've been talking to several people about the value of the network you develop starting out in NY. I think if you went to a mid-tier like JMP or Thomas Weisel that is based in SF you'd be fine, but I'm wondering how great an advantage you would have at Goldman or Morgan Stanley being in NY over SF.

I love Anderson and would be very happy to get an acceptance there this fall, but after thinking about it a little deeper, I see why a lot of people have UCLA as a backup to the other top finance schools. It's not a knock against Anderson per se, but more a result of their alumni's geographic concentration on the West Coast. The brand just isn't as strong nationally and that is a fact. People always talk about the best school by ranking, but I think it's really more about the best brand. What school has that certain Je-ne-sais-quoi? What school makes everyone else on this board jealous when you get an admittance? That is the power of the brand.


Starting out in NY and developing that network is important if you want to be a career banker. If you want to switch to PE/VC or something else after a few years - I would argue it's easier to do it out of SF than it is out of NY - especially VC. Also, people in California are far less pedigree-oriented than people in NYC - so they could care less whether you went to Anderson or Columbia/Chicago as long as you know your stuff and you're a good person to work with.

Personally, I find technology banking to be the most interesting and if you want to be a tech banker - it doesn't really make sense logically to start out in NYC. Goldman and Morgan's Technology groups in SF are some of the most prestigous banking groups nationwide. Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank hold a lot of clout in Tech Banking as well.

To sum it up, given my career goals, if I get admitted to an M7 - I'll probably go. If it's between Anderson/Haas and schools like Duke, Yale, or Tuck - I'll probably just go with Anderson or Haas. I don't particularly have any desire to ever leave California - I moved here last year and I absolutely love it.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   07 Jun 2008, 10:44
I'm available for some of the stuff I found out about Anderson from last year. Good luck y'all!

With the new director of admissions, hopefully it'll be easier for applicants to get in touch with the school. if you have trouble, let me know and I can refer you to some of the people I spoke with last year.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   24 Jul 2008, 08:35
Anyone else think it's a little annoying that UCLA isn't releasing their essays until August? I know that's only a week away (well till the first), but seems so far behind some of the other top schools.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   24 Jul 2008, 08:46
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Anyone else think it's a little annoying that UCLA isn't releasing their essays until August? I know that's only a week away (well till the first), but seems so far behind some of the other top schools.


Yes, it is very annoying. In my opinion, actions speak louder than words and this shows me that the school may have a culture of procrastination and being disorganized. Or perhaps, it's just the admissions office.

If you want to start working on their essays, I believe the "Why MBA" and "Tell us about where you grew up" questions are staples of the UCLA application year after year.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   24 Jul 2008, 10:03
unfortunately UCLA is famous for being disorganized (just the admissions office). The school is still great and the staff is super helpful and supportive. Don't give up on the school because of their admissions office. :) I was hoping they would be a lot better this year with the new admissions director.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   24 Jul 2008, 10:06
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Anyone else think it's a little annoying that UCLA isn't releasing their essays until August? I know that's only a week away (well till the first), but seems so far behind some of the other top schools.


Before this year, it was always like this. I just don't get why schools release them so late. Maybe they don't want you to apply to multiple schools?
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   24 Jul 2008, 10:14
Maybe they just do everything late, start classes, finish classes...release essay topics.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   24 Jul 2008, 10:55
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jb32 wrote:
Anyone else think it's a little annoying that UCLA isn't releasing their essays until August? I know that's only a week away (well till the first), but seems so far behind some of the other top schools.


Yes, it is very annoying. In my opinion, actions speak louder than words and this shows me that the school may have a culture of procrastination and being disorganized. Or perhaps, it's just the admissions office.

If you want to start working on their essays, I believe the "Why MBA" and "Tell us about where you grew up" questions are staples of the UCLA application year after year.


Yes, it is annoying. But to be fair, UCLA does start classes later than almost all other schools. So relatively speaking, it makes a little more sense that their essays are released later. But I still don't see why just the essay questions couldn't have been released in, oh say, July. It's not like it's that complicated.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   30 Jul 2008, 20:05
Looks like the application, essay questions, and dates are up. October 9th for R1! I'm in!
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   30 Jul 2008, 20:52
WOW, that's early! and wow, they got it up so soon? I'm shocked! :shock:
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   27 Sep 2008, 20:04
This thread is really dead. I take it that most people are not applying to UCLA until Round 2? I know I am not.

They just posted the Class of 2010 profile:

https://www.anderson.ucla.edu/Documents/ ... ss2010.pdf

Mean GPA: 3.5, Mean GMAT: 711,

Mid-80% GPA Range: 3.2-3.8, Mid-80% GMAT Range: 660-760
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   27 Sep 2008, 21:35
woh, I didn't even know this thread was still here. :P

the stats sound awfully similar to most of the top schools. :)

thanks terp06!
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   28 Sep 2008, 13:40
I am in R1...go bruins..
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   28 Sep 2008, 19:19
Look at the selectivity..... a staggering 9.7%.... Tougher than HBS!!!! Tougher than Wharton....... Nearly Stanford-like...... And we thought that UCLA was a bit easier..... lol
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   28 Sep 2008, 19:22
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Look at the selectivity..... a staggering 9.7%.... Tougher than HBS!!!! Tougher than Wharton....... Nearly Stanford-like...... And we thought that UCLA was a bit easier..... lol


Just so you know, they admit way more than 360 students.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   28 Sep 2008, 19:41
Yes, their yield is only around 50%. Their admit rate should be in the 18-20% range, which is not bad for last year.
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   29 Sep 2008, 06:41
oopsie...... I totally overlooked the yield part of the equation........ lol
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   03 Oct 2008, 11:30
So I just got off the phone with the admissions office, which I think are a bunch of a$$ holes, and it seems they are very strict on word limits for essays. Now I'm screwed because there is almost no way I can reduce my optional essay to 250 words, I'm at 340 right now. It's just not possible. Help?

Kry, any advice on word limits for UCLA applications?
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Re: Calling UCLA Fall 2009 Applicants [#permalink] New post   03 Oct 2008, 11:56
if you call the adcoms, they'll always be strict about the word limits or say "use you judgment". 340 for a 250 word essay is WAY too much. If you're like at 260 or 270, you *might* be ok, but 340 will not be acceptable and will hurt your chances.

Haas has FOUR essays at 250 words each, and we were all able to get our point across. HBS has like 6 300 word essays, and people have to do it. I recommend you purchase (or borrow) the "65 Successful HBS essays" and see how they were able to fit all the info in 300 words or fewer. :)

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