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Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 08 Jun 2010, 23:24
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Reopening this question.

Recent indications of weakness in the economy have led consumers to be more conservative with their purchases; so depressed have sales figures been as a result that the government has launched several initiatives to actively encourage consumer spending.

(A) so depressed have sales figures been as a result that
(B) the sales figures have been so depressed as a result that
(C) as a result, so depressed has the sales been that
(D) the resulting sales figures having been so depressed that
(E) the sales figures have been so depressed that, as a result,

A, B, E. Which one and why. Will truly appreciate the help

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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2010, 00:26
I am confused over D and E, though all seems incorrect.

We have so and as a result, both means therefore. Thus, having both in a senetence is redundant.

(D) the resulting sales figures having been so depressed that
We have HAVING BEEN here, which is also another almost always incorrect usage, but it is better than the rest.

(E) the sales figures have been so depressed that, as a result,
Here, both so and as a result are separated by a comma.

So, IMO E.

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Reopening this question.

Recent indications of weakness in the economy have led consumers to be more conservative with their purchases; so depressed have sales figures been as a result that the government has launched several initiatives to actively encourage consumer spending.

(A) so depressed have sales figures been as a result that [S-V are separated]
(B) the sales figures have been so depressed as a result that [Redundancy as mentioned above]
(C) as a result, so depressed has the sales been that [HAS is incorrect verb + Redundancy as mentioned above]
(D) the resulting sales figures having been so depressed that
(E) the sales figures have been so depressed that, as a result,

A, B, E. Which one and why. Will truly appreciate the help

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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2010, 00:41
I think its E.
If we use semicolon to connect two statements than each must be able to stand independetly. As per my understanding, choice E is the best. (But I have a doubt on "as a result")
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2010, 01:31
A - looks awkward
C - has is not compatible
D - having been is wordy
E - 'as a result' of what?

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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2010, 07:21
Thanks to Sarai for answering the question. D is the answer.
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2010, 17:01
I narrowed it to A and B but picked A.

Read thru Sarai's explanation (according to which the correct asnwer is B) but still could not understand the exact reason behind A to be wrong. Can someone try to explain this again.
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2010, 21:22
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I narrowed it to A and B but picked A.

Read thru Sarai's explanation (according to which the correct asnwer is B) but still could not understand the exact reason behind A to be wrong. Can someone try to explain this again.

:wink: Hey seekmba

This is my takeaway from Sarai's explanation :-)
There is a redundancy issue in A. so and "as a result" mean the same.

(A) so depressed have sales figures been as a result that

Either "so" will cause and effect
or "as a result" will cause and effect NOT BOTH.

In A BOTH the expressions "cause and effect". So the best way to keep both is use one of them as an modifier. In B "as a result" modifies depressed.

This is what 2) illustrates

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2)Redundancy: The 'so' idiom already expresses cause and result; thus, 'as a result' is redundant in all the answers except for B in which 'as a result' describes only the word 'depressed' and not the resulting actions of the government.

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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 15 Aug 2010, 18:49
Has someone found the OA for the above?
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 19 Aug 2010, 08:04
i choose B ...because it eliminates redundancy of "as a result " and makes more sense...
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 19 Aug 2010, 11:52
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E has to be it. I called it. Kudo's to me if I'm right =)

Here's the analysis of how I came to my conclusion.

(A) so depressed have sales figures been as a result that
(B) the sales figures have been so depressed as a result that
(C) as a result, so depressed has the sales been that
(D) the resulting sales figures having been so depressed that
(E) the sales figures have been so depressed that, as a result,

We know immediately that A is out because since it is followed by a semi-colon it has to be a complete sentence. B makes it seems like something else makes the sales figures so depressed. So it basically modifies the meaning. Out.

C's "as a result, so depressed..." --- WTF is that? It doesn't even make sense. Out.

D. Anything with "ing" especially with "having" is probably wrong. It doesn't even sound right. Have you heard someone say "having this soup is the best?" -- No, it sounds dumb. It means that it is still happening right now, and you're not "having" anything lol ahahahaha (inside joke sorry).

So yeah, E it is kids.
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 19 Aug 2010, 12:04
So can someone please say what the OA is?

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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2010, 10:06
Please this as well

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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2010, 10:10
Not my answer found it from some other post please have a look at the explanation
OA -A :-(

A, "as a result" is supposed to modify the conservative spending of consumers, so E is eliminated. C has the wrong verb. D has the wrong tense. However, I don't see why A is chosen over B. I feel B is more succinct.
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i don't think "so" and "as a result" are redundant. i thought the "so" here is used as "very".

(A) so depressed have sales figures been as a result that
>> "as a result" should be close to the result "so depressed"?
(B) the sales figures have been so depressed as a result that
>> my pick
(C) as a result, so depressed has the sales been that
>> "has" (singular) and "the sales" (plural) don't agree
(D) the resulting sales figures having been so depressed that
>> "having" is wrong
(E) the sales figures have been so depressed that, as a result,
>> the placement of "as a result" here does not seem to relate the first part of the sentence to the decrease in sales
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2010, 14:14
I chose 'A'. But there has been so many discussions on this....Experts can you please throw somelight on this?
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 15 May 2012, 23:59
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Reopening this question.

Recent indications of weakness in the economy have led consumers to be more conservative with their purchases; so depressed have sales figures been as a result that the government has launched several initiatives to actively encourage consumer spending.

(A) so depressed have sales figures been as a result that
(B) the sales figures have been so depressed as a result that
(C) as a result, so depressed has the sales been that
(D) the resulting sales figures having been so depressed that
(E) the sales figures have been so depressed that, as a result,

A, B, E. Which one and why. Will truly appreciate the help

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+1 for E. what is the OA?? and OE..
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 16 May 2012, 03:33
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There are three things to be considered here, the cause, the manifestation, and the result of the cause. Here the weakness in the economy is the root cause that is sympholized or manifested in depressed figures, which drove the govt to act. Therefore it is not logical to say that the depressed figures caused the govt to take action. It is the weakness. Choices A and B precisely indulge in that fatal error by clubbing the phrase as a result with the depressed sales figures, while E cleverly avoids that pitfall by setting off the phrase and giving it the freedom to modify the action taken by the govt.
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 16 May 2012, 07:53
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Recent indications of weakness in the economy have led consumers to be more conservative with their purchases; so depressed have sales figures been as a result that the government has launched several initiatives to actively encourage consumer spending.

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There are a lot of things happening in the sentence. So let’s put them in order to simplify which action is leading to which one.
a. There have been recent indications of weak economy.
b. These have led consumers to be more conservative with their purchase.
c. Now, because (as a result) of consumers becoming conservative with their purchases, sales figures have been very depressed.
d. Therefore, the government has launched several initiatives so that consumers can start spending the way they were doing before.

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Error Analysis

1. The subject and the verb are accounted for – “sales figures” and “have been”. Notice that this sentence does not follow the regular “subject followed by the verb construction”. Hence, it may sound a little out of place. But this kind of structure is grammatically correct.
2. Use of present perfect “have been depressed” is correct to show an action that has started in the recent past and still continues.
3. There are no modifier, pronoun, and idiom errors in this sentence.
4. The sentence is correct as is.

POE:

Choice A: so depressed have sales figures been as a result that: Correct for the reasons stated above.

Choice B: the sales figures have been so depressed as a result that: Incorrect. Notice the presence of “the” before “sales figures”. The original sentence does not have “the” before this subject. This means that the sentence is talking about general sales figures. It’s talking about the overall sales figures. However, “the” in this choice implies that the sentence is talking about particular sales figures. This does not make sense because nowhere in the sentence do we get the mention of any specific kind of sales figures. Hence, even though this choice follows the regular subject-verb syntax and reads flawless, presence of “the” and the illogical specificity that it attaches to sales figures make this choice incorrect.

Choice C: as a result, so depressed has the sales been that: Incorrect.
1. Singular verb “has” does not agree in number with plural subject “sales”.
2. The choice repeats the error of “the” as in Choice B.

Choice D: the resulting sales figures having been so depressed that: Incorrect. There is no main verb in this choice. This leads to fragment error.

Choice E: the sales figures have been so depressed that, as a result,: Incorrect.
1. This choice changes the meaning of the sentence. The phrase “as a result” connects the sentence after the semicolon with the one before the semicolon. The intended meaning is that due to customers becoming more conservative with their purchases, sales figures have been depressed. However, this choice says that because sales figures have been depressed, the government has taken certain steps to boost sales.
2. The choice repeats the error of “the” as in Choice B.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 16 May 2012, 21:49
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I understand that I do differ from the rest in gauzing the meaning of the text from the rest, but I do stick to my stand. IMO, the govt’s action is the ultimate result of the preceding cursors; In A and B, the depressed sales figures seem to be the resultant action. This is jumping the well hallway, whereas E is crystal clear in that the resultant action is not just because of the weakness in economy alone, not even because of the conservative consumer spending but also due to the instant revelations by the statistically recorded poor sales figures. The govt’s action is the logical end to the episode, which is the culmination of all these factors that action is brought about the govt, which is what the sentence tries to bring forth and which is what E brings about.

Any differences of opinion is welcome; I respect them although I may not agree with them.
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Re: Challenging Question 2 [#permalink] New post 17 May 2012, 07:09
OA is A,
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