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Actually, my assumptions about the prime rate might be too low! Only the last year of scenario 4 and the last two years of scenario 5 have the prime rate above 10.

If you look at this chart, the prime rate has been a lot closer to 10 even in the past few years!



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Yeah, check the history out. It's only been recently that rates have generally been below 7.5 percent.
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I found this over at the bw forums...

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I was originally having a hard deciding between the Grad PLUS and the alternative loan but after having giving a couple of lenders my credit score (766) I found out that the alternative loan isn't as attractive. I thought that I would be able to qualify for the better rates, i.e. Prime + 1%, however my score puts me in the Prime +5%. That by itself is already as much as the Grad plus rate and it would most likely go up. They told me that one would need a fico score of around 820 in order to get near the Prime +1% rate.


Also, I called my loan provider because I hadn't heard anything back after applying and she said they are waiting for my school to certify the loan. She said a lot of school are waiting until July because the gov't will be setting the new interest rates early that month.

Maybe we'll luck out and see the 8.5% Grad plus drop a bit?

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Anybody know if you can cancel your loan and change to the lower interest rate in July if it does go down? I figure it won't be an issue, but maybe I am overlooking something.
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One other thing to note this week is the big change in the Eurodollar futures contracts, which is tied to LIBOR expectations. For instance, from Wednesday to today, Eurodollar contracts scheduled for December 2010 delivery fell 50 bps, which implies expectations for future LIBOR rose 50 bps in just 3 days. With movements like that it wouldn't take much for variable (i.e. private) student loan rates to rise higher than fixed rate student loans.
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Anybody know if you can cancel your loan and change to the lower interest rate in July if it does go down? I figure it won't be an issue, but maybe I am overlooking something.


I don't see why not. I mean, the funds haven't been disbursed yet, so you could just opt to not disburse any funds, then apply for a new loan.

Then again, I've never tried it, so there might be a factor I'm overlooking.

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Bump. With admittances rolling in, I'm interested to hear about what you guys are thinking in terms of loans. Especially considering Grad PLUS vs. private.

From a little bit of research so far it seems like a private loan at LIBOR +4% might be a better, although riskier, deal than Grad Plus at 7.9% plus 2.5% origination.

Thoughts? What are others planning?

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Another thing to consider is taking out loans against your 401k. I think you can typically borrow against half of your balance, so it may or may not cover all your tuition (but every little bit helps). Looking at mine, the rate was 3.25%, so it's definitely something to think about. The catch is that the payback period is shorter term (3-58 months). Anyway, just something to consider.
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Borrowing against your 401k is probably not a good idea. Unlike student loans where you can defer repayment while you're in school, a 401k loan you start making payments right away.
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Good call, Jerz. Guess that wouldn't make much sense at all. I'll have to check and see if they offer the option to defer, even if it's at a higher rate.
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This has become a terrifying endeavor...
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Hi All,

I presume these schemes are only applicable to US students. Are there any financing options available for non US citizens wishing to pursue a MBA program in the US?
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Another small (slightly morbid) item to note in comparing federal vs. private loans is that the federal loan balances are forgiven if the borrower dies. Private loans would go against your estate and could create a financial liability for your survivors.

Hopefully an irrelevant point for all of us.
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There are two downsides to borrowing against your 401k

1) No grace period
2) Returns are limited since a good portion is tied up in your loan.

The benefits are good though:
1) Low fixed rate (4.25% at my company)
2) Flexible payment options (1-10 years usually)
3) The interest you pay goes to YOURSELF (or specifically your 401k)
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Does anyone have an idea what credit score it takes to qualify for the best rates from private lenders? I was surprised to find out that I "qualified" for the worst rate 7.75 + LIBOR from Discover Financial. My credit score is in the 80th percentile.
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That's not entirely surprising. First, it's an unsecured loan so banks are going to save the best rates for people with sterling credit scores (but of course they'll advertise the heck out of those rates). Second, the govt did away with subsidies for private education lenders, so of course banks will raise rates to compensate for the lost subsidies.
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magus wrote:
There are two downsides to borrowing against your 401k

1) No grace period
2) Returns are limited since a good portion is tied up in your loan.

The benefits are good though:
1) Low fixed rate (4.25% at my company)
2) Flexible payment options (1-10 years usually)
3) The interest you pay goes to YOURSELF (or specifically your 401k)


I don't think you can borrow if you quit. At least for my company any loans on your 401K needs to be repaid immediately upon termination of employoment. Otherwise it will be considered a withdrawl and taxed/penalized accordingly.
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