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Gmatclub quant CATs improvement and actual performance [#permalink] New post 20 Jan 2014, 04:55
Hi all,

I've been preparing for the GMAT quite some time now and I already had a go, getting a 580, and a q38. Now, I was really stressed and everything seemed really convoluted, however I ended up with 4-5 mins to spare! So it didn't go so well.

I've been practicing with gmatClub's quant CATs for about a month now, and my performance ranges from q31, 33% to q37, 50% (only once), and I'm usually in the q31-q33 zone. I know that a few of the questions are really hard, and I'm not aiming for q51 anyway, but for q45-onwards. Overall a 670+. I make a few silly mistakes, like 2-3 every time, and I also got a good 5-6 questions that I couldn't have solved anyway.

Any ideas on how my scores translate to real performance, and how can I improve this?
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Re: Gmatclub quant CATs improvement and actual performance [#permalink] New post 20 Jan 2014, 22:04
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Hi all,

I've been preparing for the GMAT quite some time now and I already had a go, getting a 580, and a q38. Now, I was really stressed and everything seemed really convoluted, however I ended up with 4-5 mins to spare! So it didn't go so well.

I've been practicing with gmatClub's quant CATs for about a month now, and my performance ranges from q31, 33% to q37, 50% (only once), and I'm usually in the q31-q33 zone. I know that a few of the questions are really hard, and I'm not aiming for q51 anyway, but for q45-onwards. Overall a 670+. I make a few silly mistakes, like 2-3 every time, and I also got a good 5-6 questions that I couldn't have solved anyway.

Any ideas on how my scores translate to real performance, and how can I improve this?


I'd like to have a look at your timing to suggest something tangible enough. Would you mind posting a screen shot from one of your recent tests?
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Re: Gmatclub quant CATs improvement and actual performance [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2014, 02:13
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Skag55 wrote:
Hi all,

I've been preparing for the GMAT quite some time now and I already had a go, getting a 580, and a q38. Now, I was really stressed and everything seemed really convoluted, however I ended up with 4-5 mins to spare! So it didn't go so well.

I've been practicing with gmatClub's quant CATs for about a month now, and my performance ranges from q31, 33% to q37, 50% (only once), and I'm usually in the q31-q33 zone. I know that a few of the questions are really hard, and I'm not aiming for q51 anyway, but for q45-onwards. Overall a 670+. I make a few silly mistakes, like 2-3 every time, and I also got a good 5-6 questions that I couldn't have solved anyway.

Any ideas on how my scores translate to real performance, and how can I improve this?


I'd like to have a look at your timing to suggest something tangible enough. Would you mind posting a screen shot from one of your recent tests?


Sure yes. The result of cat1 was 50%, and of cat2 32%
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Re: Gmatclub quant CATs improvement and actual performance [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2014, 02:32
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Sure yes. The result of cat1 was 50%, and of cat2 32%


I just had a quick look and see that in your CAT 2 you have two questions in which you've spent over 5 minutes and on another you've spent almost 4. This basically means that out of the 75 minutes, you've spent almost 15 minutes on 3 questions leaving you with 60 minutes for the rest 34 questions. That is a whopping 8 minutes short of the 2 minute per question average!

I would suggest that you should start thinking about guessing as soon as you are nearing the 3 minute mark. If you notice, you've got just 1 of those 3 questions correct. Return of nvestment of time seems to be low. :) If you don't get it in 3 minutes there is a high probability that you won't get it in more time. You don't have to keep checking the clock. This sense of timing should come inuititvely with practise. Next time you take a mock test make it your mission to not go over 3:30 for as many questions as you can. Guess and move on.

I also see you've got many 600 level questions wrong. Have you gone through the MGMAT guides? There is also a very good GMAT Club quant PDF booklet with very comprehensive notes for quant. I'd recommend that you download it if you haven't already and know it by heart. My signature has a link to my de brief, it also has some useful tips on resources and test strategies. I would say one thing to you - "Work on your basics" - Get hold of MGMAT guides and go through them and make sure you don't move on till you grasp a topic. First basics, then questions!!

Also some of the questions on these tests will be insanely hard - don't worry! You are doing well, you just need to be in a position where you are doing as good as you can and looking at your cat results with timing bottlenecks I am sure there is room for improvement. Be more aware of your timing when you take mocks and go through quality content. You are bound to improve.

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Re: Gmatclub quant CATs improvement and actual performance [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2014, 02:38
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Skag55 wrote:
Sure yes. The result of cat1 was 50%, and of cat2 32%


I just had a quick look and see that in your CAT 2 you have two questions in which you've spent over 5 minutes and on another you've spent almost 4. This basically means that out of the 75 minutes, you've spent almost 15 minutes on 3 questions leaving you with 60 minutes for the rest 34 questions. That is a whopping 8 minutes short of the 2 minute per question average!

I would suggest that you should start thinking about guessing as soon as you are nearing the 3 minute mark. If you notice, you've got just 1 of those 3 questions correct. Return of nvestment of time seems to be low. :) If you don't get it in 3 minutes there is a high probability that you won't get it in more time. You don't have to keep checking the clock. This sense of timing should come inuititvely with practise. Next time you take a mock test make it your mission to not go over 3:30 for as many questions as you can. Guess and move on.

I also see you've got many 600 level questions wrong. Have you gone through the MGMAT guides? There is also a very good GMAT Club quant PDF booklet with very comprehensive notes for quant. I'd recommend that you download it if you haven't already and know it by heart. My signature has a link to my de brief, it also has some useful tips on resources and test strategies. I would say one thing to you - "Work on your basics" - Get hold of MGMAT guides and go through them and make sure you don't move on till you grasp a topic. First basics, then questions!!


Thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate it. I too have spotted those timing issues which I am trying to eliminate. Also, the vast majority of the wrong questions are due to silly mistakes, a 0 possibility I didn't account for, etc. I have been counting at least 50% of my mistakes are silly mistakes, therefore sometimes I try to devote more time to solve a question rather than guess and move on.
However I was looking more for a level of performance, unless suggestion is that we shouldn't be taking gmactlub's cats as accurate measurement of real performance (which I am cool with, since I feel I am building a strong foundation anyway with them).
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Re: Gmatclub quant CATs improvement and actual performance [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2014, 02:55
Skag55 wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate it. I too have spotted those timing issues which I am trying to eliminate. Also, the vast majority of the wrong questions are due to silly mistakes, a 0 possibility I didn't account for, etc. I have been counting at least 50% of my mistakes are silly mistakes, therefore sometimes I try to devote more time to solve a question rather than guess and move on.
However I was looking more for a level of performance, unless suggestion is that we shouldn't be taking gmactlub's cats as accurate measurement of real performance (which I am cool with, since I feel I am building a strong foundation anyway with them).


If you ease out your timing issues it will give you more time to concentrate on some of the boundary conditions like considering 0 etc. Make sure to make note of these things. For example, I used to have problems where I would consider real numbers and integers and vice versa...gmat club tests are tricky for that. I would make it a point to note these things down while solving a question.

As for the level of performance GMAT prep would give you the best idea. However, Q37 on gmat Club is good, it is hard to say how good though. I can only speak on personal experience on GMAT club. Personally I was at Q38 on my first GMATCub CAT and found it insanely tough on my first go but took it up to Q51 in some of the later ones. On GMAT Club you start getting a Q51 if you are getting more than 25 questions correct! I ended up with a Q50 on the real GMAT.

Try to get an upward trend on your scores. You should look to get upto Q45 or there about. Doing that would give you the confidence to get a Q45 on the real test also and confidence makes a lot of difference. Hope this answered what you were asking for.
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Re: Gmatclub quant CATs improvement and actual performance [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2014, 03:00
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Skag55 wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate it. I too have spotted those timing issues which I am trying to eliminate. Also, the vast majority of the wrong questions are due to silly mistakes, a 0 possibility I didn't account for, etc. I have been counting at least 50% of my mistakes are silly mistakes, therefore sometimes I try to devote more time to solve a question rather than guess and move on.
However I was looking more for a level of performance, unless suggestion is that we shouldn't be taking gmactlub's cats as accurate measurement of real performance (which I am cool with, since I feel I am building a strong foundation anyway with them).


If you ease out your timing issues it will give you more time to concentrate on some of the boundary conditions like considering 0 etc. Make sure to make note of these things. For example, I used to have problems where I would consider real numbers and integers and vice versa...gmat club tests are tricky for that. I would make it a point to note these things down while solving a question.

As for the level of performance GMAT prep would give you the best idea. However, Q37 on gmat Club is good, it is hard to say how good though. I can only speak on personal experience on GMAT club. Personally I was at Q38 on my first GMATCub CAT and found it insanely tough on my first go but took it up to Q51 in some of the later ones. On GMAT Club you start getting a Q51 if you are getting more than 25 questions correct! I ended up with a Q50 on the real GMAT.

Try to get an upward trend on your scores. You should look to get upto Q45 or there about. Doing that would give you the confidence to get a Q45 on the real test also and confidence makes a lot of difference. Hope this answered what you were asking for.


Excellent! Always good to have a threshold based on someone else's experiences. Many thanks for your time and suggestions.
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Re: Gmatclub quant CATs improvement and actual performance [#permalink] New post 22 Jan 2014, 20:57
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Would also recommend you this post if you need more timing ideas: timing-strategies-on-the-gmat-80176.html

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