Last visit was: 25 Apr 2024, 19:19 It is currently 25 Apr 2024, 19:19

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
SORT BY:
Date
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 269
Own Kudos [?]: 8 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
User avatar
Director
Director
Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Posts: 516
Own Kudos [?]: 64 [0]
Given Kudos: 28
Concentration: General Management
Schools:Harvard '11
Send PM
avatar
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
Joined: 30 Aug 2008
Posts: 251
Own Kudos [?]: 6 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 269
Own Kudos [?]: 8 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
fall09 wrote:
aakashganga wrote:

Do people write about goal of moving to other countries and do US schools look favorably upon such applicants?


I think you can write about the regions you want to work post-MBA.


Do US schools wonder why you didn't apply to Business schools in those regions instead?
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 269
Own Kudos [?]: 8 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
msday wrote:
I think the b-school adcom's skepticism might arise from the fact that you have never been to the Middle East, and they may feel that basic knowledge of Arabic does not equal local know-how. I personally have no idea, but I'm guessing they thought your goals were out of line, especially in the current economic climate, and that you have not done enough research.

I think successful applicants who specify working in certain countries/regions are generally from those places (born, lived in for x years, etc.).



My point was there are some emerging markets in the world. Gulf region is one of them. I already have some skills to work in this region. Hence, I want to capitalize on the business opportunity in the region. My short term goal was to join to an operations consulting firm and take assignments in the region. So, it was not that I was going to go to Gulf right after my MBA.
avatar
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
Joined: 30 Aug 2008
Posts: 251
Own Kudos [?]: 6 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
aakashganga wrote:
fall09 wrote:
aakashganga wrote:

Do people write about goal of moving to other countries and do US schools look favorably upon such applicants?


I think you can write about the regions you want to work post-MBA.


Do US schools wonder why you didn't apply to Business schools in those regions instead?


I think u address that in the 'Why school?' part.
User avatar
SVP
SVP
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
Status:Burning mid-night oil....daily
Posts: 2396
Own Kudos [?]: 779 [0]
Given Kudos: 548
Schools:Yale SOM 2011 Alum, Kellogg, Booth, Tuck
 Q44  V50
WE 1: IB - Restructuring & Distressed M&A
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
Maybe adcom isn't sure how getting a MBA from their school specifically is going to help you reach your goal.

Your goal was very specific and yet, even I can't figure out why you have to get your MBA to reach that goal.
User avatar
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
Joined: 04 Aug 2008
Posts: 274
Own Kudos [?]: 124 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
Maybe the problem was in some other part of your application
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 269
Own Kudos [?]: 8 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
ninkorn wrote:
Maybe adcom isn't sure how getting a MBA from their school specifically is going to help you reach your goal.

Your goal was very specific and yet, even I can't figure out why you have to get your MBA to reach that goal.


oh.. I didn't talk about that as yet. I work in supply chain IT. I want to move to supply chain operations. Hence, MBA serves as a perfect bridge for the transition.
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 269
Own Kudos [?]: 8 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
spiridon wrote:
Maybe the problem was in some other part of your application


Possible. I am just trying to introspect. Thanks though.
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 269
Own Kudos [?]: 8 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
fall09 wrote:

I think u address that in the 'Why school?' part.


Yeah, but then if you say you want to work in India in the long-term, my question was would schools wonder why you don't go to an Indian business school instead.
User avatar
Current Student
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
Posts: 1321
Own Kudos [?]: 156 [0]
Given Kudos: 6
Schools:Tuck
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
I think if you answer "why school X" and "why I want to work in the Middle East" it won't be an issue.

If you gave solid reasons for attending school "X", such as a specific concentration offered or industry connections (say a oil company that operates in the ME) then the adcom should be satisfied.

Similarly, if you can give a good reason why you want to work in the ME, such as specific interest in the region (support with examples) or your industry of interest is centered there, then you should be fine on that point also.

There are plenty of people who come to the US for MBAs who plan on have career outside of the US, it isn't an automatic disqualifier.

RF
User avatar
Current Student
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
Posts: 1321
Own Kudos [?]: 156 [0]
Given Kudos: 6
Schools:Tuck
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
aakashganga wrote:
fall09 wrote:

I think u address that in the 'Why school?' part.


Yeah, but then if you say you want to work in India in the long-term, my question was would schools wonder why you don't go to an Indian business school instead.


They won't if you provide specific examples why attending their school is better than attending a school in India.

RF
User avatar
SVP
SVP
Joined: 17 May 2007
Posts: 2437
Own Kudos [?]: 1682 [0]
Given Kudos: 210
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
Hi aakash I feel that the goal is interesting and distinctive. Perhaps, you need to talk about where do these goals stem from a bit more. See if you can answer these questions :

Why are you so interested in supply chain (i.e. what is your motivation / inspiration / passion behind this)?
Why the middle east ?
How will operations consulting help you achieve supply chain in middle east in long run ?
Did you mention the names of specific consulting firms ?
Does the school place lots of students in operations consulting ?
Does the school have great faculty/clubs that specialises in supply chain / operations (did you mention that on the essays ?)

Good luck.

aakashganga wrote:
After getting dinged by a couple of schools, I am taking feedback from a few of my friends on my goals essay. My long term goal is to move to Middle East and lead supply chain operations for an American retail chain there (more and more retail chains are starting operations in the Middle East). I am originally from India, but have been living in the states for about 6 years. I can read Arabic and understand it to an extent although I haven't been there yet.

After reading my goals, a few of my friends thought that schools might have wondered about the seriousness of my goal. They thought if I were serious, I would apply to schools in the gulf rather than to schools in US. But, for me US schools offer a lot more that schools in the gulf region won't be able to offer. Besides, in the short term I want to join operations consulting firms and if possible take assignments in the Middle East.

Do people write about goal of moving to other countries and do US schools look favorably upon such applicants?
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 269
Own Kudos [?]: 8 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
refurb wrote:
aakashganga wrote:
fall09 wrote:

I think u address that in the 'Why school?' part.


Yeah, but then if you say you want to work in India in the long-term, my question was would schools wonder why you don't go to an Indian business school instead.


They won't if you provide specific examples why attending their school is better than attending a school in India.

RF


I didn't compare the schools. Since you are from Canada, did you do so?
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 269
Own Kudos [?]: 8 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
Why are you so interested in supply chain (i.e. what is your motivation / inspiration / passion behind this)?

I have been working in Supply chain IT for last 4 years. I want to move to the supply chain operations. MBA helps me in transitioning.

Why the middle east ?

Middle East is one of the emerging markets for high end retail business. A lot of US chains are setting up operations in this area (my current company being one of them). I have relatives in this area and hence been exposed to it for a while. Over the last 2 years, I have studied Arabic and have a grasp on the culture.

How will operations consulting help you achieve supply chain in middle east in long run ?

Since my background is non-business, I am not exposed to various aspects of running a business in an untapped market. Ops consulting will gives me this exposure and helps me solidify my position to grab the opportunity.


Did you mention the names of specific consulting firms ?

Yes.

Does the school place lots of students in operations consulting ?

Yes. Nowadays many MC firms are combining strategy and operations (except Mckinsey) and yes schools I applied to have a good placement in this industry.

Does the school have great faculty/clubs that specialises in supply chain / operations (did you mention that on the essays ?)

I did.

So, not sure what went wrong. I am beginning to think that some other aspect of my application didn't work.
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 06 Jul 2006
Posts: 180
Own Kudos [?]: 264 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Location: SFO Bay Area
Concentration: Entrepreneurship
Schools:Berkeley Haas
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
aakashganga wrote:
After getting dinged by a couple of schools, I am taking feedback from a few of my friends on my goals essay. My long term goal is to move to Middle East and lead supply chain operations for an American retail chain there (more and more retail chains are starting operations in the Middle East). I am originally from India, but have been living in the states for about 6 years. I can read Arabic and understand it to an extent although I haven't been there yet.

After reading my goals, a few of my friends thought that schools might have wondered about the seriousness of my goal. They thought if I were serious, I would apply to schools in the gulf rather than to schools in US. But, for me US schools offer a lot more that schools in the gulf region won't be able to offer. Besides, in the short term I want to join operations consulting firms and if possible take assignments in the Middle East.

Do people write about goal of moving to other countries and do US schools look favorably upon such applicants?


Here are a few tips that I have gathered after talking to a number of successful MBAs:

1. You can and certainly should name the place if you know it already about where you want to work after MBA..i.e long term goal
2. To make a good long term goal that sounds convincing, you should be able to show some past/current WE in that area, to be able to show that yes you have done your research and middle east or where ever is the right location for you in the long term and your research shows that you will be comfortable living and working there apart from being successful.
3. Schools do not worry about where you want to work after MBA...as its your personal choice...but you certainly need to show why you need an MBA and why from this/that school...knowledge is knowledge, you should be able to apply it anywhere, so middle east or even Africa or any other place is absolutely fine, as long as you can do justice and show that this is the place you belong to...

Good luck.
User avatar
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
Joined: 04 Aug 2008
Posts: 274
Own Kudos [?]: 124 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
I believe that they dont pay attention where or even what do u want to work/do

they just want to see that u r highly motivated for their program coupled with some sincerity i guess...



i dont think that was a problem with ur application at all

maybe they got too many similar candidates with similar profile as urs

what r ur numbers n background if u dont mind sharing
avatar
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
Joined: 30 Aug 2008
Posts: 251
Own Kudos [?]: 6 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
I'm not putting any location preference in my essays.But I believe if you do put a location,especially something other than your home country or USA,you might want to show some ties to that region.
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 269
Own Kudos [?]: 8 [0]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
spiridon wrote:
I believe that they dont pay attention where or even what do u want to work/do

they just want to see that u r highly motivated for their program coupled with some sincerity i guess...



i dont think that was a problem with ur application at all

maybe they got too many similar candidates with similar profile as urs

what r ur numbers n background if u dont mind sharing


oh sure.

8 yrs IT/supply chain at a fortune 50 retailer. 740 GMAT/ Good GPA.
GMAT Club Bot
Re: Goals question [#permalink]
 1   2   

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne