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Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise.

(A) as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise

(B) as the rise continues in both the amount of satellites and space debris

(C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise

(D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites

(E) with the amount of space debris continuing to increase along with the number of satellites
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Re: Diction; Rhetorical construction [#permalink] New post 28 Oct 2010, 23:09
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I pick C
"as" sounds better than "with" so D, E out
debris is non-countable while satellite is countable
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Re: Diction; Rhetorical construction [#permalink] New post 28 Oct 2010, 23:17
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(A) as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise
amount refers to a quantity that is uncountable. Whereas satellites are countable. hence Incorrect.

(B) as the rise continues in both the amount of satellites and space debris
same as A. Satellites are countable. Also rise sounds better as a verb than as a Subject in this sentence.

(C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise

As X & Y continue to rise. S+V agree. Also number refers correctly to satellites. hence Right answer.


(D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites
Wordy. Ambiguity in the use of Increase instead of rise. Such prefers the use of 'as' instead of 'with'.

(E) with the amount of space debris continuing to increase along with the number of satellites
Wordy and redundant. Such prefers the use of 'as' instead of 'with'.
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Re: Diction; Rhetorical construction [#permalink] New post 29 Oct 2010, 07:30
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You both nailed this problem.

It's critical to understand not only the grammar behind the GMAT, but also the way the test works. As soon as you see "the number" or "less than" or "fewer" in an underlined section of SC, chances are you're going to have to think through countable and uncountable nouns. Be on the look out for that issue.
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Re: Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2012, 23:27
Answers A and B are incorrect. "Satellites" are countable. Therefore, it is incorrect to say "the amount of satellites."
Answer C is correct.
Answers D and E are much longer and redundant in comparison to answer C. Also they use "with" instead of "as", which is less favored in the GMAT. Moreover, answer E changes the intended meaning because of the use of "along with" instead of "and." The original sentence suggests that the number of satellites and the amount of space debris continue to rise and that these are two separate problems. Answer E states that the amount of debris is correlated with the number of satellites.
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Re: Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been [#permalink] New post 20 Dec 2012, 05:05
pls, explain fully why D is wrong. I think D is wrong because of meaning problem.

"with phrase" can modify noun a a clause. why "with phrase " is wrong in D.
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Re: Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been [#permalink] New post 20 Dec 2012, 06:57
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pls, explain fully why D is wrong. I think D is wrong because of meaning problem.

"with phrase" can modify noun a a clause. why "with phrase " is wrong in D.


Hi there,

Choice D: with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites
Notice the parallel list in this sentence – chances increase greatly with
a. The continually increasing amount of space debris
b. The number of satellites.
This is not the intended meaning of the sentence. Per the sentence both are increasing and this choice fails to communicate that.

Hope this helps. :)
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Re: Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been [#permalink] New post 30 Dec 2012, 00:05
in c, " as" shows the simultaneousness of 2 actions, the intended meaning

in D, "with phrase" shows the context of the main clause and is distorted meaning.

I learn english when they study gmat

with they studying gmat, I learn english.

the second sentence is correct though "with" refers to no noun in the main clause.

in the context that thay study gmat, I study english. the first sentence has different meaning.

If choice D stand alone it is correct, but if C and D stand together and C is closer to the meaning of the original sentence, C is correct and D is considered distorted.

is my thinking correct? pls comment
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Re: Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been [#permalink] New post 30 Dec 2012, 01:47
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I think intended meaning here is to give the reasoning for certain prediction using the conjunction "As". The use of "with" here gives impression that given events are the independent events that are occurring simultaneously, and hence fails to establish the causal relationship. Use of "as" is more appropriate here.

Choice (C) depicts the required reasoning and establishes the relationship between two events:
(cause) As the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise -> (effect) the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly.

PS: Grammatically "with" can only act as a Preposition. It cannot be used as a conjunction.
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Re: Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been [#permalink] New post 03 Jan 2014, 02:36
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Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise.

(A) as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise

(B) as the rise continues in both the amount of satellites and space debris

(C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise

(D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites

(E) with the amount of space debris continuing to increase along with the number of satellites


why D is wrong

there is pattern
main clause+with+noun+noun modifier.

this pattern require a comma before "with". D has no comma.

in this pattern, "with...." can show the reason for the main clause. This reason happen before the action in main clause. So grammartically, "increasing amount and number" happen before the "increase" in the main clause. This is not logic.

the logic meaning relation between 2 actions is the simultaneousness which is expressed in choice C.

I think this question is strange because gmat never test a hard point like this
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Re: Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been [#permalink] New post 03 Jul 2014, 21:01
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pls, explain fully why D is wrong. I think D is wrong because of meaning problem.

"with phrase" can modify noun a a clause. why "with phrase " is wrong in D.


Hi there,

Choice D: with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites
Notice the parallel list in this sentence – chances increase greatly with
a. The continually increasing amount of space debris
b. The number of satellites.
This is not the intended meaning of the sentence. Per the sentence both are increasing and this choice fails to communicate that.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
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Can't "continually increasing " modify the amount and the number at the same time? And one more question. I understand that the amount of satellites is wrong. But just want to understand the structure. In B, can "the amount of" be understood in reference to satellites? Thanks.
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Re: Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been [#permalink] New post 04 Jul 2014, 09:01
If you want "continually increasing" to modify the amount and the number at the same time, you cannot have the "the" before "number of satellites". Think of it as a parallelism thing -- "the" X amount and "the" number. The parallel structure and the conjunction suggest that there are two independent entities, so the adjective of the first (increasing) cannot apply to the second.

In B, you cannot have "amount" with the countable "satellites".


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