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Hi Mike,
I have completed my basics once, but still i get many questions wrong or fumble with the basics. I find my self at a very hard place cause i have my exams coming up,mostly confused with " how to proceed". Let me clarify-- My basics are over, but there are many topics i need to revisit. I cant decide how to divide my time between revisiting weak topics, practise other topics, do higher level questions so that i can move up the GMAT ladder. Not to forget i have to find time for VERBAL. My last test score-600 (Q35 V31) Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks, Samvit

Dear Samvit,

First of all, your statement "My basics are over" raises my suspicions and concerns. I think anyone who is not scoring in the high 50s should not say they are "done" with the basics --- it is all too easy to underestimate the importance of the basics. Here's an article I will recommend about levels of understanding that clarifies what I am saying.
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/understand ... rformance/
In particular, often folks who struggle in math have a weak grasp of the basics. They may understand, say, exponents, but not understand basic parentheses use. There are so many different levels in any math problem, and problems with the basics can cause widespread problems.

You see, math in particular is an unforgiving topic. If you need to know, say, 20 mathematical facts to answer a question, and you know 18 or 19 of those 20 facts, you probably will get the question wrong. For each question you get wrong, it's important to identify precisely which facts you were missing. If you don't understand this, post it here on GC ---- post the question, and what you did, and what you understand and don't understand. It takes more work to post a long question like this, but it's a good way to get focused help from the experts. Forcing yourself to articulate exactly what you understand and what you don't understand is an excellent way to close gaps in your understanding. When you post questions like this, asking for detailed help on a single problem, feel free to send me a pm to solicit my help. :-)

Again, I would highly recommend reading through all the math articles on this free blog:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/
I review many math facts as well as common mistake and common traps on GMAT math questions.

Finally, for overall balance --- math vs. verbal, review vs. challenge material --- I believe that 30-day study plan above provides an excellent framework.

Does all this make sense?
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samvit wrote:
Hi Mike,
I have completed my basics once, but still i get many questions wrong or fumble with the basics. I find my self at a very hard place cause i have my exams coming up,mostly confused with " how to proceed". Let me clarify-- My basics are over, but there are many topics i need to revisit. I cant decide how to divide my time between revisiting weak topics, practise other topics, do higher level questions so that i can move up the GMAT ladder. Not to forget i have to find time for VERBAL. My last test score-600 (Q35 V31) Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks, Samvit

Dear Samvit,

First of all, your statement "My basics are over" raises my suspicions and concerns. I think anyone who is not scoring in the high 50s should not say they are "done" with the basics --- it is all too easy to underestimate the importance of the basics. Here's an article I will recommend about levels of understanding that clarifies what I am saying.
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/understand ... rformance/
In particular, often folks who struggle in math have a weak grasp of the basics. They may understand, say, exponents, but not understand basic parentheses use. There are so many different levels in any math problem, and problems with the basics can cause widespread problems.

You see, math in particular is an unforgiving topic. If you need to know, say, 20 mathematical facts to answer a question, and you know 18 or 19 of those 20 facts, you probably will get the question wrong. For each question you get wrong, it's important to identify precisely which facts you were missing. If you don't understand this, post it here on GC ---- post the question, and what you did, and what you understand and don't understand. It takes more work to post a long question like this, but it's a good way to get focused help from the experts. Forcing yourself to articulate exactly what you understand and what you don't understand is an excellent way to close gaps in your understanding. When you post questions like this, asking for detailed help on a single problem, feel free to send me a pm to solicit my help. :-)

Again, I would highly recommend reading through all the math articles on this free blog:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/
I review many math facts as well as common mistake and common traps on GMAT math questions.

Finally, for overall balance --- math vs. verbal, review vs. challenge material --- I believe that 30-day study plan above provides an excellent framework.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)


Thanks Mike, I ll Keep you posted on my progress, also keep an eye on the Magoosh Quant forum. but one last thing if you could clarify.
From your experience can you tell how much time(Hrs) it would take to move from an Q34-35 to say Q48-49?
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Thanks Mike, I ll Keep you posted on my progress, also keep an eye on the Magoosh Quant forum. but one last thing if you could clarify.
From your experience can you tell how much time (Hrs) it would take to move from an Q34-35 to say Q48-49?

Dear Samvit:
My friend, I'm sorry to say, that's the wrong question to ask. Your mind, the unique individuality of your intelligence, is not like a car or a computer that can be easily quantified. How long it would take to make that kind of progress depends very much on your background, how fast you learn & remember, the nature of your mistakes & shortcomings, how efficiently you work, the quality of the prep material you use, etc. etc.

The biggest question really is --- why are you getting wrong the questions you get wrong now? In some sense, the only way to get an answer to that is to post each question you get wrong as its own thread here on GC, and say, "In this question, I did X & Y & Z --- why did I get it wrong? What am I missing?" The more you can solidify your understanding of the math basics, and the more you can train yourself to see insightful shortcuts and simplifying techniques, the faster you will improve and the more successful you can be. Again, for each question you post like that, feel free to solicit my help in a pm. Again, remember to scour the free Magoosh blog both for math basics and for simplifying hints.

One of the advantages of Magoosh is that each one of our GMAT questions has its own video explanation, for accelerated learning ---- as soon as you submit your answer, if you are not correct, you can watch a video and see immediately what you were missing. If you are disciplined about learning from your mistakes each time, you will progress with rocket speed. The mark of an excellent student is: never to make the same mistake twice.
For free, here's a Magoosh PS question:
https://gmat.magoosh.com/questions/854
and here's a Magoosh DS question
https://gmat.magoosh.com/questions/934
For each one, after you submit your answer, the following screen will have the video & text explanations.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)
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Beautiful! Thanks Mike for explaining this in detail. Lot of us can actually get help from the statements made below.

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The biggest question really is --- why are you getting wrong the questions you get wrong now? In some sense, the only way to get an answer to that is to post each question you get wrong as its own thread here on GC, and say, "In this question, I did X & Y & Z --- why did I get it wrong? What am I missing?" The more you can solidify your understanding of the math basics, and the more you can train yourself to see insightful shortcuts and simplifying techniques, the faster you will improve and the more successful you can be. Again, for each question you post like that, feel free to solicit my help in a pm. Again, remember to scour the free Magoosh blog both for math basics and for simplifying hints.

Mike :-)




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