Shawshank wrote:
Sure, but it's a matter of degree. From talking to a lot of people, it seems like LBS is doing a lot worse than u.s. schools such as wharton/booth/columbia. And london finance in particular is getting hit harder than NYC.
I would love to see concrete job placement stats from rwk. That would be quite helpful.
I agree that latest job stats would be helpful to quantify current placement rates. One bad year does not necessarily mean a bad business school.
London is doing worse than NY because the European economy is stuck in a rut vs. the US economy that has grown. Non-US schools will be at a disadvantage given name recognition etc but there are advantages to being at LBS that is not readily apparent. The initial exposure through classrooms or workshops to other students or to visitors can have longer-term benefits that is not immediately quantified in job placements.
That being said, while LBS does not have the same name recognition that US schools, it still is a recognised business school with a great league table ranking.[/quote]
I think LBS is a great school, but does LBS MIF have any advantage over top u.s. mba programs such as wharton/booth/sloan/columbia in terms of finance recruiting?
Why do we compare a MiF program with an MBA one? Does LBS MBA have any advantage over M7 US MBA? Certainly not, I think... In business (and other) education US universities are the best, they have the most money, attract the best talent, etc. Nobody questions that. There was an old businessweek thread where this was discussed; basically there are very few LBS alums (i'm including mba as well) who were in leadership roles at major banks, asset management firms, and hedge funds, while the top u.s. programs have a plethora. Also, even for london/hong kong/singapore finance jobs, where LBS name carries more weight than in the U.S., the top U.S. b-schools easily win out.
Again, that's true. However, European business schools (see INSEAD for instance) are more international compared to their US peers, where 50-60% of the students are American. Someone going for this may choose a school outside the US even if it is less top-notch.I'm not trying to be overly negative but given how expensive the program and the city is, I think it's worth pointing out what the exact value is to the program.[/quote]
MiF is considerably cheaper than an MBA at LBS (GBP 37k vs GBP 61k) and also shorter (10/16 months vs 15/18/21 months). For example HBS full tuition is roughly GBP 69k for 2 years. Yeah, I know GBP 69K is nothing for a HBS MBA that will pay off handsomely in the future, plus you get more financial aid in US school, plus the career opportunities, etc. Still looking at the price tags I can't see why MiF is so much overpriced... Living in NY for 2 years while attending the Stern is so much cheaper? Look at the Cambridge MiF program, it also costs exactly GBP 37k! LBS MiF should be compared to Cambridge or INSEAD MiF in terms of costs/length/career opportunities/etc not to US MBAs even if they will also compete with us for jobs.