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EssaySnark Essay Review! Stanford Essay 2: What do you want to do – REALLY?



souvik101990 got a great (!!!) Stanford career goals essay submitted for this free EssaySnark review and as we explained in one of our recent posts in this thread, we don't like publishing good essays.

So what we're going to do is discuss why this particular Stanford career goals essay worked, and talk about the ways that the Brave Supplicant could possibly improve things further – but without actually including the essay itself.

First, to recap: This is the career goals question for Stanford, the one that asks what you “REALLY” want to do and why do you want to go to Stanford to do it.

The specific draft that we're talking about is from a Brave Supplicant talking about doing an education-focused social venture in Asia.

How did this Brave Supplicant approach it? Why is EssaySnark so fond of what we're seeing?

    1. This person NAILED IT based on very clear writing – it is a well-polished essay. We didn't stumble on any of the sentences. It was easy to read. Believe it or not, this counts for A LOT. How can you claim that you are going to change the world if you don't even know how to put a simple sentence together? If you're saying that you have this great idea, but you cannot communicate it to a constituent, then...
    2. More specifically: This person IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN SOLVING. This is effing awesome. They laid out exactly the situation that they are concerned about – this happens to be a cultural trend that they've observed. They identified a specific problem in the educational system in their country.
    3. Then, the rest of the essay is talking about why this person needs to go to Stanford in order to have the tools to build a social enterprise
We have to say, we're especially impressed with the quality of the writing, given that this person is coming from an Asian country – we assume that English is not the first language. Yet this essay was better-written than essays we see from many American BSers. Nicely done.

Quality writing counts for diddly squat if the content is sucky. This person is on target with both dimensions. Yeah, can you tell that we're impressed?

Now before this Brave Supplicant gets too excited... this is Stanford we're talking about, and we only saw one essay of three. We don't know what the GMAT and the transcripts and the recommendations and resume look like. Hopefully they reflect the same quality as we saw here – but one essay does not a successful application make.

And, we're EssaySnark. We don't want to risk doing damage to our hard-won reputation by being too nice. So let's talk about areas for improvement.

What this BSer could do better in Stanford essay 2:
    1. Identify more precisely how you're qualified to tackle this problem. This essay is not great as a standalone document. While the adcom will be reading the essays as one piece of the entire application, it's usually stronger to make them self-contained and complete unto themselves – each one. We don't have this BSers resume and we don't know the educational and professional background, and there's very little info in the essay itself that provides us with any foundational information. We can't evaluate if this person is the right one to go attack this problem, since we don't know enough about him/her from this essay itself. That might not be a fatal flaw, since the adcom does have the whole rest of the app to reference – but it's a smoother reading experience for your adcom person if you give her everything she needs to understand your argument, point by point, in the essay itself. This can be just a sentence or two, it doesn't need to summarize and restate everything you've got elsewhere, but it wouldn't hurt to encapsulate why you're the person who can make this happen, based on your existing experiences.
    2. This is especially true and maybe mandatory in one certain area: This Bser says that they want to start a social enterprise. This person mentioned something in the draft (vaguely) about industry/sector experience, which is good, but we'd also like to hear about you as an entrepreneur or having an initiative-taking mindset, based on some concrete example. What can you point to that shows that this is something you “REALLY” will do? Where is the evidence from your past that you've done something big before? A light touch on a key reference of one sort or another would help.
    3. Your lead-in information seems like a lot; there's two full paragraphs talking about stuff that is “not you” - setup info, description of the problem – and we get a little nervous when too much of any essay is devoted to things that aren't describing the candidate. We already gushed about how well you did this problem-setup piece so we don't want you to discard all that – but tightening it up might be possible. Or, potentially you could answer the essay question straightaway, in the very first sentence or two? It's actually OK in the order you have it – it flows pretty well, even though you don't literally name your career goals until about the halfway point in the draft. In most cases we advise against this, we like to see goals stated upfront since it makes the reader's job easier, she knows what the target is so she can better evaluate everything else you write against those goals, by getting them stated in the beginning. That structure is not mandatory and this essay (which we're sure, by now, that everyone else reading this is frustrated that we haven't actually shared it) is done well, despite not having that structure. Still, there's a lot of stuff that could be seen as not exactly answering the question, in the first 170 words. That's a lot when the whole essay is under 500 words.
    4. Similarly, towards the end of the essay, the BSer talks about why it's urgent to tackle this problem in general – but that discussion is made from a societal point of view. It doesn't really hold a lot of credence for us. (Before anyone writes in their essay that something “holds credence” for them – we just made that phrase up – it is probably nonsensical and grammatically incorrect – but it's a prerogative of the 'Snark to do that. This is why you should never copy anything from the Internet into your bschool essays.)
Anyway – hope that discussion of an essay you never even got to see is useful. There's a lot to like in this – and some room for improvement – but at first-blush review, we are liking it.

Good luck, Brave Supplicant!



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Hi EssaySnark,
How much time I'm supposed to allow you to get the review done after I sent the essay to you via Souvik?
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Hi bagdbmba - We're doing one a week and so it depends on who's in the queue ahead of you. We've got a Stanford essay 1 that's due to go up this week. We don't recall seeing an essay come through from you specifically, so you should check with Souvik on status.

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Applicants must provide essay question intact, school name, round and deadline. The algorithm for choosing the applicant will take the school and deadline into account.


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Hi bagdbmba - We're doing one a week and so it depends on who's in the queue ahead of you. We've got a Stanford essay 1 that's due to go up this week. We don't recall seeing an essay come through from you specifically, so you should check with Souvik on status.

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Thanks essaysnark for your reply.

Let me just inform you that I'm yet to send my essay but just asking to know beforehand so that I can send that and get it reviewed within time.
BTW, I just sense it'd take time anyways as I'm not a Threadmaster :wink: However, I'd send out mine in few days!

P.S: Clarified it to Souvik also.
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Thanks bagdbmba - hoping to see your essay soon!

And for everyone: You need not be a threadmaster to qualify, please don't let that stop you from submitting your essays!! These reviews are available to all active GMAT Club members.
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EssaySnark Essay Review! Stanford Essay 1: What matters most, and why?


Uh oh. The classic Stanford essay.

We're a little surprised it took this long for anyone to send this in! It's traditionally held the spot of “Most Difficult Essay” among all top business schools of the world – that is, until HBS mixed things up with the completely open-ended essay this year.

SIDE NOTE: DO NOT BE TEMPTED TO RE-USE YOUR STANFORD ESSAY 1 FOR HBS.

That's just a little word o' advice from the 'Snark. We're actually going to discuss Stanford today, not Harvard. But we know that many people will try to jigger other schools' essays into that Harvard prompt, and Stanford Essay 1 is a common candidate for this misguided effort. Please resist the urge. Not only are the questions the schools are asking totally unrelated, but the schools themselves are so different that the Stanford content just isn't appropriate for Harvard.

Not to mention the fact that it'll be completely obvious to Harvard if that's what you do.

But back to Stanford.

As you know, Stanford doesn't have actual word limits for each individual essay. They have guidelines for a suggested allocation, and you can't go over 1600 words total. They recommend a 750-word essay for the Matters Most question – which is downright liberal by bschool essay standards these days. Used to be, 750 words was a middle-length essay. Now, this is one of the longest essays around.

Still, 750 words isn't that long when you have a lot to say. After all, this essay is asking you to talk about the thing that's most precious to you – most important – most core-critical over all else in the world. Seems like that should take some space to do a good job, wouldn't it?

Yes and no.

Some people do in fact wander off into la-la-land with the extreme permissiveness that Stanford has allowed of 750 words for Essay 1. Your biggest challenge with this essay is that you must FOCUS. You have to directly answer the question – in fact, both elements of the question.

We're happy to report that the Brave Supplicant who sent in this draft did exactly that. At least, there's a clear and direct answer to the main element right upfront – in the first sentence, in fact. Here's what we got:

Keeping an open mind, from exploring other countries to shedding personal biases, matters most to me. As a first generation Chinese American, I not only grew up speaking two languages, but I also adopted two distinct cultures. My parents, who had lived in Germany before immigrating to the United States, further influenced me to broaden my horizon. Because of them, I have always gravitated towards new ideas and experiences.


So refreshing! So direct! You would not believe how many of these essays we see where there is no specific answer to the question to be found – not in the first sentence, not in the first paragraph, not nowhere.

So your next tip for today (besides the one about not trying to re-use Stanford 1 to HBS) is that you MUST ANSWER THE QUESTION.

This is true for every essay for every school – you're saying, “Like, duh, EssaySnark” right?

Yeah. Well. Not everyone seems to get this part. It's a very very common misstep among BSers' drafts everywhere. And it's super critical for Stanford.

The reason for that is, with 750 words, you can quickly hang yourself if you don't have a specific core around which to build your essay. You must know literally what you're talking about (“duh” again, right?) in order to say something useful and intelligent.

This BSer has done a fairly good job of that. We get a real answer in the first sentence. When we first read it, we had some misgivings that it sounded like an answer written to impress the adcom – that's probably the second most common mistake that people make on this one, behind the “not answer the question” part. The hardest part of Stanford essay 1 is to say something that's authentic, to share a real part of yourself. The answer given in the first sentence made us hesitate straightaway, since we were worried it was gonna be another one of those essays. We were also worried that it sounded like the BSer was answering the “matters most” question with multiple responses.

That's tip #3: Only write one single answer in this essay. This BSer has said that “keeping an open mind” is the most important thing, and that works, but it seems like they are also saying that “exploring other countries” and “shedding personal biases” are also what “matters most” - and obviously you can only have ONE thing that “matters most”. Singular. The way it's written, we can kinda excuse it, but you're heading into dangerous territory there.

EssaySnark has already managed to write 750 words ourselves in this discussion of just a single paragraph of Stanford Essay 1 – so we need to wrap things up here. Obviously there's a lot that can be said about any of these essays, and we're not trying to claim that we've covered all the ground in even this one paragraph. Here's a quick summary, to help this BSer understand what they've done and where they need to be careful:

    1. Besides the “multiple answers” thing you need to look at the focus of the essay. You start off with this decent opening and then you do an excellent job of talking about specific experiences in your life by which this answer is true – (tip #4 for BSers: that's the way to execute on this essay, is by DESCRIBING ACTUAL EVENTS that have shaped you and made the “matters most” thing what it is). **BUT!** This BSer has too much “not-me” content. You describe in great detail some experiences in Germany, which are well-written and generally interesting... but are they about YOU? You need to be careful with this. We're not saying that you should delete all of it, but you need to examine it closely and make sure that it's revealing something specific about you – and that it's truly supporting your answer to the “matters most” thing. Around paragraphs 6 and 7 we started wondering what the point was. And paragraph 8 is really off track. You're totally out in the wilderness there discussing your friends' grandparents... what does that have to do with YOU? This needs attention.

    2. You need to test the argument you're making. This is again true for everyone (tip #5: does the “why” answer fit logically with the “matters most” answer?) This BSer brings everything full circle at the very end but it's a little high-concept; we're not completely convinced that these threads tie up as neatly as you want them to. Maybe it's fine... the essay feels complete, which is definitely important and hard to do... but somehow the “why” statement seems like it could be more directly focused on YOU.


Hopefully these tips and the specific reactions we've offered to the brave BSer who submitted this will also be useful to all of you. This is still one of the hardest essays around. If you're just starting out on your essay-writing adventure, we do not recommend beginning with Stanford. Get your feet wet on essays to another school – Wharton or Kellogg have “easy” essays to learn the ropes with. Then come tackle your Stanford drafts a little later, after you have your chops down. The whole ordeal will be easier that way.

Or relatively so. It's still Stanford. And it's still a killer of a question.

Good luck with it!

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Well... more than 11 days in the making.. :D But always good to read those evaluations by you!
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Well... more than 11 days in the making.. :D But always good to read those evaluations by you!

11 days? We said on 8/26 that Stanford Essay 1 would be reviewed this week. We're doing at least one review a week (both EssaySnark and Souvik are a little busy at the moment so sometimes there's delays in posting - hope that we all get cut some slack given that these are, uh, FREE. 8-) ). There's also a couple essays in the queue so turnaround depends on who's been approved and when.

But where are you getting 11 days? You make it sound like we're late on a commitment or something.
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Well... more than 11 days in the making.. :D But always good to read those evaluations by you!

You should read the first post.
You sent in your essay on 26th of August.
I selected your essay and sent in on 28th.
Today is 31st
It has been 3 days.

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Well... more than 11 days in the making.. :D But always good to read those evaluations by you!

11 days? We said on 8/26 that Stanford Essay 1 would be reviewed this week. We're doing at least one review a week (both EssaySnark and Souvik are a little busy at the moment so sometimes there's delays in posting - hope that we all get cut some slack given that these are, uh, FREE. 8-) ). There's also a couple essays in the queue so turnaround depends on who's been approved and when.

But where are you getting 11 days? You make it sound like we're late on a commitment or something.


Okay.. Uh looks like you took my post a bit too seriously. :|

I arrived at 11 days by the difference in your last posted essay eval (Stanford E2 on 20 Aug) to this one. I am not accusing you, i guess i am always excited and looking forward to reading your posts that i cant help but countdown to it. :) And I am sure you are busy this season with tons of Harvard essays coming to you from your clients :wink:

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Well... more than 11 days in the making.. :D But always good to read those evaluations by you!

You should read the first post.
You sent in your essay on 26th of August.
I selected your essay and sent in on 28th.
Today is 31st
It has been 3 days.

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Yeah I hear you man!!
Somehow lately, I have been swamped by essays.

Always good to see those coming btw..
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Okay.. Uh looks like you took my post a bit too seriously. :|

I arrived at 11 days by the difference in your last posted essay eval (Stanford E2 on 20 Aug) to this one. I am not accusing you, i guess i am always excited and looking forward to reading your posts that i cant help but countdown to it. :) And I am sure you are busy this season with tons of Harvard essays coming to you from your clients :wink:

Aha - well OK, technically correct, 8/20 was the last review that went up, but sheesh, TWO REVIEWS went up that day... it was like a double header!! :P

Didn't mean to jump on you with it - the enthusiasm is definitely appreciated!! It's good to know that somebody out there is even reading these durn things.... :shock:

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great idea souvik, thanks a lot.

and thanks to EssaySnark for the free review :) ,,, and I have a request:

from your experience on application essays & statements of purpose, can you point out the difference between MBA and PHD essays, what aspect should a PHD applicant focus on, and if you can post some examples.
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from your experience on application essays & statements of purpose, can you point out the difference between MBA and PHD essays, what aspect should a PHD applicant focus on, and if you can post some examples.

Aldossari, we answered some of that just yesterday in this post.

We don't post sample essays but if you want yours reviewed you can follow the instructions here to submit it.

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Thanks EssaySnark! I incorporated your feedback and made the thesis more tangible, as well as directed the focus back onto me. I appreciate your review!
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