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Hi Bunuel I do not understand this "Now, if a, the x-coordinate of the center, is more than 4 or less than -4 then the radius of the circle, which is 4, won't be enough for curve to intersect with Y axis" Can you explain it for me ? many thanks :D !


This should be easy if you draw it. If the center is more than 4 units far from y-axis then the radius of 4 won't be enough to reach y-axis:
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langtuprovn2007 wrote:
Hi Bunuel I do not understand this "Now, if a, the x-coordinate of the center, is more than 4 or less than -4 then the radius of the circle, which is 4, won't be enough for curve to intersect with Y axis" Can you explain it for me ? many thanks :D !


This should be easy if you draw it. If the center is more than 4 units far from y-axis then the radius of 4 won't be enough to reach y-axis:
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This is great, however i am unable to visualize the case when a co-ordinate is less than -4. Then how exactly will the circle not be able to touch the y axis?
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langtuprovn2007 wrote:
Hi Bunuel I do not understand this "Now, if a, the x-coordinate of the center, is more than 4 or less than -4 then the radius of the circle, which is 4, won't be enough for curve to intersect with Y axis" Can you explain it for me ? many thanks :D !


This should be easy if you draw it. If the center is more than 4 units far from y-axis then the radius of 4 won't be enough to reach y-axis:
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This is great, however i am unable to visualize the case when a co-ordinate is less than -4. Then how exactly will the circle not be able to touch the y axis?


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I think this question is good and helpful.
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The main theme is whether the circle intersects Y axis or not. So, it depends on 'a'.
First, try to answer without (1) or (2). Can you say the circle intersects Y axis? No. It depends on a. If a is closer enough to Y axis so that 4 unit distance is enough to touch. So, 'a' must be at least within 4 distance or /a/=4 or /a/<4
(1) not sufficient because a2>16-b2. Depending on b, a can be either greater than 4(not touch Y) or less than 4(touch Y). Since it fails to justify a definite answer to the original question, it is not sufficient.
(2) Forget about 1. (2) tells that in any situation or even at the least value of b, 'a' must be at least 5. So, radius 4 is not enough to touch Y axis from 5 unit distance(minimum scenario). So sufficient, and the answer is 'No' to the question. B
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I used algebra approach for this question.

So the circle will intersect with y-axis at point \((0,y_0)\).

Substitute into the question we have: \(a^2 + (y_0 - b)^2 = 16 <-> a^2 - 16 + (y_0 - b)^2 = 0\)
--> so the question is whether this equation have real root \(y_0\) or not.

(1) Lead to: \(a^2 - 16\) can be >0 or <0 --> insufficient
(2) Lead to: \(a^2 - 16 >0 -> a^2 - 16 + (y_0 - b)^2 > 0\): equation has no real root \(y_0\) --> no intersect: sufficient.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation. This question really shows why visualization is important in geometry. Awesome Question. Really very thoughtful.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation. Very easy question if you can visualize the picture. That's why I love math :)
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with the explanation.
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I have edited the question and the solution by adding more details to enhance its clarity. I hope it is now easier to understand.
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