NEW HERE? LEARN MORE
closeclose
Last visit was: 26 Apr 2024, 07:33 It is currently 26 Apr 2024, 07:33
Decision Tracker
My Rewards
New posts
New comers' posts

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Go to My Error Log Learn more
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel

DS Material - Advice

SORT BY:
Date
Kudos
User avatar
DensetsuNo
Manager
Manager
Joined: 11 Oct 2015
Status:2 months to go
Posts: 91
Own Kudos [?]: 857 [0]
Given Kudos: 38
Schools: HBS 2+2 '22 MIT Sloan MSMS"18
GMAT 1: 730 Q49 V40
GPA: 3.8
Send PM
DS Material - Advice [#permalink] New post   19 Jul 2016, 06:29

Dear All,

In two weeks I'll have my first (and hopefully last) dance with the GMAT,
the reason why I'm writing is because on the simulations I'm struggling with the harder DS questions, specifically testing "extreme" cases.

That said my Q scores are reasonably high, but in the last GMATprep among the 7 wrong answers 5 were DS questions,
something that from my perspective has to and can be improved.

My plea is: if you know some advanced material which can explain in an easy fashion how to tackle those problems (I've already skimmed through the Manhattan DS guide and Magoosh) please let me know.

ps.
Show Spoiler"Info about my prep"
Started studying two months ago.
Target score: 710-750 (realistically I don't think more than 750 is attainable in the next 2 weeks).
Prep material used: Magoosh extensively, the OG2016, and the Manhattan guides mostly for Critical Reasoning.
When I'll take the GMAT: I have booked two dates, one at the beginning of August and one at the end.
GMAT prep simulations:
1. After 2 weeks 650
2. One month later: 770 (not realistic since I had already seen many CR and some SC questions in the "Thursdays with Ron" videos)
User avatar
L
EMPOWERgmatRichC
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11668 [1]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: DS Material - Advice [#permalink] New post   19 Jul 2016, 15:59
1
Kudos
Expert Reply
Hi DensetsuNo,

From what you've described, you have not taken a realistic CAT in over a month, so it's not clear whether you should be focused on DS right now or not. As such, you should plan to take a new FULL-LENGTH CAT (with the Essay and IR sections) sometime soon. Once you have that score result, you should post back here.

1) What were the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores when you scored 650?
2) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
3) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
User avatar
L
KarishmaB
Tutor
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
Posts: 14830
Own Kudos [?]: 64933 [1]
Given Kudos: 427
Location: Pune, India
Send PM
Re: DS Material - Advice [#permalink] New post   19 Jul 2016, 20:35
1
Kudos
Expert Reply
DensetsuNo wrote:

Dear All,

In two weeks I'll have my first (and hopefully last) dance with the GMAT,
the reason why I'm writing is because on the simulations I'm struggling with the harder DS questions, specifically testing "extreme" cases.

That said my Q scores are reasonably high, but in the last GMATprep among the 7 wrong answers 5 were DS questions,
something that from my perspective has to and can be improved.

My plea is: if you know some advanced material which can explain in an easy fashion how to tackle those problems (I've already skimmed through the Manhattan DS guide and Magoosh) please let me know.

ps.
Show Spoiler"Info about my prep"
Started studying two months ago.
Target score: 710-750 (realistically I don't think more than 750 is attainable in the next 2 weeks).
Prep material used: Magoosh extensively, the OG2016, and the Manhattan guides mostly for Critical Reasoning.
When I'll take the GMAT: I have booked two dates, one at the beginning of August and one at the end.
GMAT prep simulations:
1. After 2 weeks 650
2. One month later: 770 (not realistic since I had already seen many CR and some SC questions in the "Thursdays with Ron" videos)


Check out our freely available DS book here: https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/
Your understanding of sufficiency may be lacking somewhere. The book might provide you the 'lightbulb' moment which will put everything in place.
User avatar
G
Nevernevergiveup
Retired Moderator
Joined: 18 Sep 2014
Posts: 1015
Own Kudos [?]: 2755 [1]
Given Kudos: 79
Location: India
Send PM
GMAT ToolKit User Reviews Badge
Re: DS Material - Advice [#permalink] New post   19 Jul 2016, 21:05
1
Kudos
DensetsuNo wrote:

Dear All,

In two weeks I'll have my first (and hopefully last) dance with the GMAT,
the reason why I'm writing is because on the simulations I'm struggling with the harder DS questions, specifically testing "extreme" cases.

That said my Q scores are reasonably high, but in the last GMATprep among the 7 wrong answers 5 were DS questions,
something that from my perspective has to and can be improved.

My plea is: if you know some advanced material which can explain in an easy fashion how to tackle those problems (I've already skimmed through the Manhattan DS guide and Magoosh) please let me know.


You said that your Quant scores are reasonably high. Having said that, you should not worry about the no of wrong answers. As per the algorithm, difficulty increases only till you fail to answer and getting very difficult question will not hurt your at all. So just relax and focus on basics. DS is all about keeping your mind red alert checking for exceptional cases affecting your sufficiency.

Also veritas DS is a wonderful resource and is free as well. GMAT is very liberal in case of math according to me. So Cool! 8-)
User avatar
DensetsuNo
Manager
Manager
Joined: 11 Oct 2015
Status:2 months to go
Posts: 91
Own Kudos [?]: 857 [0]
Given Kudos: 38
Schools: HBS 2+2 '22 MIT Sloan MSMS"18
GMAT 1: 730 Q49 V40
GPA: 3.8
Send PM
DS Material - Advice [#permalink] New post   20 Jul 2016, 00:41
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi DensetsuNo,

From what you've described, you have not taken a realistic CAT in over a month, so it's not clear whether you should be focused on DS right now or not. As such, you should plan to take a new FULL-LENGTH CAT (with the Essay and IR sections) sometime soon. Once you have that score result, you should post back here.

1) What were the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores when you scored 650?
2) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
3) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich


Dear Rich,
this might be true for the verbal, but as far the Q is concerned there were no repeated questions so the test I did 2 weeks ago should be fine for that part.
Anyway, a few days ago I purchased the exam pack #2 and I'll try my chances on Saturday.

As for your questions:
1) Q44 V37
2) Starting September
3) Stanford deferred MBA, HBS 2+2 MBA, Sloan and Cornell (and probably Wharton)

Nevernevergiveup wrote:
You said that your Quant scores are reasonably high. Having said that, you should not worry about the no of wrong answers. As per the algorithm, difficulty increases only till you fail to answer and getting very difficult question will not hurt your at all. So just relax and focus on basics. DS is all about keeping your mind red alert checking for exceptional cases affecting your sufficiency.

Also veritas DS is a wonderful resource and is free as well. GMAT is very liberal in case of math according to me. So Cool! 8-)


Thanks mate, I agree that fundamentals are the key, but unfortunately I may lack some method on those questions,
I'll give a look at the Veritas book.

VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:
Check out our freely available DS book here: https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/
Your understanding of sufficiency may be lacking somewhere. The book might provide you the 'lightbulb' moment which will put everything in place.


Thanks Karishma, let's hope for some kind of enlightenment!
avatar
B
TrevorKleeTutor
Manager
Manager
Joined: 20 Jul 2016
Posts: 88
Own Kudos [?]: 77 [0]
Given Kudos: 9
Send PM
Re: DS Material - Advice [#permalink] New post   22 Jul 2016, 12:21
Well, looks like my time to shine. Check out my guides in my signature. They're questions from the OG, but explained in a unique and clear way.

Hopefully this is what you're looking for. Getting instincts for test cases can be tricky.
GMAT Club Bot
gmatclubot
Re: DS Material - Advice [#permalink]
22 Jul 2016, 12:21

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne
Main navigation
GMAT Resources
Partners
MBA Resources
www.gmac.com|www.mba.com | | GMAT Club Rules | Terms and Conditions