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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2008, 02:24
The GMAT SCORING RUBRIC posted by Jimmy is not accurate.
I got Q50 V42 and got a 760, while from the graph it seemd lower than 750.
We could open a new post and putting all our results and deriving the curve from ourself...
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2008, 08:27
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The GMAT SCORING RUBRIC posted by Jimmy is not accurate.
I got Q50 V42 and got a 760, while from the graph it seemd lower than 750.
We could open a new post and putting all our results and deriving the curve from ourself...


Agreed, it does seem outdated.
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 13 Mar 2008, 22:45
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2008, 14:34
What was the breakdown on your MGMAT tests? Why didn't you take all 6?

I am curious because I am getting similar (low) scores on the MGMAT and starting to get worried.....but looking at how you did on the real thing gives me hope,
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2008, 19:18
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How long did you prep for the GMAT?

I know you said you took the courses from Sept to Dec., but overall may I ask what your study pattern break down was? How many hours per week?

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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 17 Mar 2008, 06:14
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What was the breakdown on your MGMAT tests? Why didn't you take all 6?

I am curious because I am getting similar (low) scores on the MGMAT and starting to get worried.....but looking at how you did on the real thing gives me hope,


Hi CB,
I was getting low 40's in quant and low-mid 30's in verbal for the first 2 MGMAT tests. On the last one, I think my breakdown was 49Q, 40V for a 730. I only had a limited amount of time to take practice tests and decided that using GMATPrep would be a more efficient use of time. I have a problem with MGMAT's CR and RC in that the answer choices sometimes are way too similar, whereas on the real thing they're sometimes a bit similar but not quite as much as they are on MGMAT tests.
Again, I would stress that taking each GMATPrep at least twice is the way to go. If you can get the writing pad and marker from MGMAT or Amazon, get it to help simulate the real exam environment as closely as possible.
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 17 Mar 2008, 06:17
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How long did you prep for the GMAT?

I know you said you took the courses from Sept to Dec., but overall may I ask what your study pattern break down was? How many hours per week?

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My study pattern wasn't consistent at all. I took the courses back in the fall-wintertime and would only study weekends at that time, usually 2-3 hours before my MGMAT class. After that, there was a month hiatus. In january, I got serious and studied about 3 days a week, 2 hours each day. In late January I started working on GMATprep tests once a week for a 6-week period up to my exam day. I would study during the week and take a CAT on a Saturday. On Sunday, I reviewed the wrong answers (I didn't close the tests after I completed them).
I took my final GMAtprep CAT the evening before my real exam, not sure if this is a strategy that will work for everyone.
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 17 Mar 2008, 11:53
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What was the breakdown on your MGMAT tests? Why didn't you take all 6?

I am curious because I am getting similar (low) scores on the MGMAT and starting to get worried.....but looking at how you did on the real thing gives me hope,


Hi CB,
I was getting low 40's in quant and low-mid 30's in verbal for the first 2 MGMAT tests. On the last one, I think my breakdown was 49Q, 40V for a 730. I only had a limited amount of time to take practice tests and decided that using GMATPrep would be a more efficient use of time. I have a problem with MGMAT's CR and RC in that the answer choices sometimes are way too similar, whereas on the real thing they're sometimes a bit similar but not quite as much as they are on MGMAT tests.
Again, I would stress that taking each GMATPrep at least twice is the way to go. If you can get the writing pad and marker from MGMAT or Amazon, get it to help simulate the real exam environment as closely as possible.



Thanks sonibubu. So you recommend re-taking GMATPrep tests to taking MGMAT ones even if you start seeing upto 1/4 of the questions repeated on the GMATPrep?
I don't know, I still think the MGMAT Q sections are valuable although impossible to complete in 75 min....at least for me. The V sections are confusing, I agree.
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 18 Mar 2008, 05:44
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chineseburned wrote:
What was the breakdown on your MGMAT tests? Why didn't you take all 6?

I am curious because I am getting similar (low) scores on the MGMAT and starting to get worried.....but looking at how you did on the real thing gives me hope,


Hi CB,
I was getting low 40's in quant and low-mid 30's in verbal for the first 2 MGMAT tests. On the last one, I think my breakdown was 49Q, 40V for a 730. I only had a limited amount of time to take practice tests and decided that using GMATPrep would be a more efficient use of time. I have a problem with MGMAT's CR and RC in that the answer choices sometimes are way too similar, whereas on the real thing they're sometimes a bit similar but not quite as much as they are on MGMAT tests.
Again, I would stress that taking each GMATPrep at least twice is the way to go. If you can get the writing pad and marker from MGMAT or Amazon, get it to help simulate the real exam environment as closely as possible.



Thanks sonibubu. So you recommend re-taking GMATPrep tests to taking MGMAT ones even if you start seeing upto 1/4 of the questions repeated on the GMATPrep?
I don't know, I still think the MGMAT Q sections are valuable although impossible to complete in 75 min....at least for me. The V sections are confusing, I agree.


If you have time, take both. But closer to the real thing, I'd suggest GMATPrep. I worked on questions that I'd seen before and sometimes got them wrong 2-3 tests in a row, so it's not guaranteed that you will get ones you've seen before correct.
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 18 Mar 2008, 23:13
congratulations! Thank you for the well debrief.
Form the debrief,I think it's very important to sum up the problems you get wrong.
thanks !!! :-D
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 24 Mar 2008, 02:12
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The GMAT SCORING RUBRIC posted by Jimmy is not accurate.
I got Q50 V42 and got a 760, while from the graph it seemd lower than 750.
We could open a new post and putting all our results and deriving the curve from ourself...


Guys, I did not create this. It was taken from Manhattan GMAT website. The website did not state the source or date of this rubric. I recall in one of their recent (2007?) videos, they mention that 750 used to be 99 percentile but now is 760.

Anyway, don't take this rubric as a final truth. After all, GMAT is always evolving. We have many smart people who are pushing the scores closer to 800 :-D
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 26 Mar 2008, 04:02
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 28 Mar 2008, 03:32
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2008, 04:33
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 09 Apr 2008, 06:26
That's a great score !!! Congrats :-D
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 09 Apr 2008, 11:21
Thanks everyone. Much appreciated! :)
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 22 Apr 2008, 15:59
Congrats....really tremendous score...
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2008, 12:22
Congrats! That is a great score.

I am currently scoring at 680 (Q 48, V34) in practice tests. Planning to go for the test during 3rd week of May. I am working full time and really having hard time to practice.

My weak areas are

Geometry
Number Properties
Word Translations
700-800 rated questions in both Q and V
CR Under Test Conditions (66%)
RC Under Test Conditions (66%)

I have decided to go to Barnes & Noble to pickup Manhattan Guide for both Number Properties and Word Translations.

Even after several rounds of thorough reading and practice in SC, I seem to be missing some of them. Especially hard ones which are completely underlined.

On RC, when I practice with OG : I am getting 95% correct. However, on the test I seem to be scoring at 66%. Same is the case with CR.

Are there any good tips that will take me to 680 league to mid 700s? In PS, how do we practice 700-800 range questions?
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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 24 Apr 2008, 05:31
Vishy,
You seem to be doing OK in math, so I'm not sure you need to get the MGMAT math guides. If there is only one MGMAT guide you can buy, it's got to be the SC. It will help you with those really difficult SC questions.
As for RC and CR, I went through everything I could in OG11 and the verbal guide. I also bought a paper test but most of the questions in it were already covered in the official guides.

Other than that, I've also heard people use LSAT CR questions which tend to be more difficult than GMAT CR questions. You can try those if you have the time.

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Re: 780 (Q50, V47) [#permalink] New post 24 Apr 2008, 07:43
Sonibubu,

Thank you so much for an insightful reply. I agree with you that my Math score is OK. However, I do not want to leave anything to chance in Math as this is my strong area. My intention to buy MGMAT guides on weak areas is to iron out all the weaknesses in Math to be sure that in Math I am going to score on par with the toppers like you :).

I already have MGMAT SC guide, this is obviously my bible for SC. Just as in other areas like CR and RC, my scoring rate in the practice exams is far below my scoring rate in when I practice with OG 11. Perhaps, I am too time conscious during the exam and thereby rushing through the questions than giving adequate thought.

Typical problems I face in SC are

Mostly not able to spot common idioms ... generally X Y constructions.
Sentences with participle phrases
Sentences with gerunds
Though I am thorough with the concepts, sometimes find it difficult to identify modifier errors.
On the whole, if I spot the error, chances are that I will answer the question correctly.

In CR, I seem to be having problems with EXCEPT Questions as it is taking long time to cover each of the choices.
I have few issues with inference questions.

In RC, I have problems with very long passages(in MGMAT Practice Exams). I am always in two minds whether to read completely or skim through such a long passage. When I skim through such passages, I tend to get only 30% correct whereas when I read throughly I get 75% correct.

On SAT RC passages, they are very lengthy and we can not go back to the passage unless we scroll the document up. I seem to be loosing focus when I do the scroll repeatedly. However, once again I will give it a try .

Sorry to bombard you with a long message. :)

Thank you so much.
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