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Sure,

I worked 4 years for a life science and biotech research chemical provider mostly in sales and marketing analysis roles. I have a bachelor's in chemistry and 30 hours of business courses which made the company a good fit. I'm a bit in the air on two focus areas Brand Management and Strategy Consulting. I have a Brand Management internship lined up for the summer with a CPG firm.
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Hi everyone,

I was recently on the road for business and I came across a Wash U Olin grad while in Paris. We exchanged cards and he was nice enough to give me his "two cents" on his experience. I thought some of his thoughts might help all of you like it did me.

He said he would give his overall experience a grade of B to B plus. The biggest positive in his view was the academic experience - he said it was "exceptional" and "awesome". He focused on finance and accounting courses, and he said it was very rigorous and all-out tough coursework. He is now a hedge fund analyst in London and he thought his preparation for finance was just as good (if not better) as his peers from top 10 schools.

About the students, he said the top quarter is very good - mostly people who got scholarship offers and could have made it at Kellogg, U Chicago, etc. He said the school definitely caters to its students and goes out of their way to help and provide resources. He said he didn't remember any activities or clubs, they didn't stand out in his head as particularly important.

About the career services, he did not use them. He already knew what he wanted to do out of B-school and built his own network and that is how he got the job he wanted. He said the small class size of 150 is not good for the school's ability to attract recruiters. He said outright - "if you are looking at B-school as a gateway to a job, Wash U is not the place for you". He recommended going in like he did - have a clear goal job and work the networks and resources to get it.

For perspective, he graduated from Olin in 1999 so things have obviously changed.

Anyway - hope it's helpful.
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Can anyone comment on the healthcare opportunities coming out of Olin? They seem to have a disproportionate number of students (30% according to their employment report) going into healthcare/pharma/biotech. This is intriguing. Even considering the small class size, this means they placed 50 students into the field.
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Sure,

I worked 4 years for a life science and biotech research chemical provider mostly in sales and marketing analysis roles. I have a bachelor's in chemistry and 30 hours of business courses which made the company a good fit. I'm a bit in the air on two focus areas Brand Management and Strategy Consulting. I have a Brand Management internship lined up for the summer with a CPG firm.


Thanks mbasappy! I am also considering Strategy/Bus Dev/Consulting. Congratulations on your internship and good luck! Hope you return with a job offer!
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Hi everyone,

I was recently on the road for business and I came across a Wash U Olin grad while in Paris. We exchanged cards and he was nice enough to give me his "two cents" on his experience. I thought some of his thoughts might help all of you like it did me.

He said he would give his overall experience a grade of B to B plus. The biggest positive in his view was the academic experience - he said it was "exceptional" and "awesome". He focused on finance and accounting courses, and he said it was very rigorous and all-out tough coursework. He is now a hedge fund analyst in London and he thought his preparation for finance was just as good (if not better) as his peers from top 10 schools.

About the students, he said the top quarter is very good - mostly people who got scholarship offers and could have made it at Kellogg, U Chicago, etc. He said the school definitely caters to its students and goes out of their way to help and provide resources. He said he didn't remember any activities or clubs, they didn't stand out in his head as particularly important.

About the career services, he did not use them. He already knew what he wanted to do out of B-school and built his own network and that is how he got the job he wanted. He said the small class size of 150 is not good for the school's ability to attract recruiters. He said outright - "if you are looking at B-school as a gateway to a job, Wash U is not the place for you". He recommended going in like he did - have a clear goal job and work the networks and resources to get it.

For perspective, he graduated from Olin in 1999 so things have obviously changed.

Anyway - hope it's helpful.


Hello Twinks, our globetrotting dudette :-D

Thanks your update from across the pond. One thing stood out to me: the guy was very frank and candid. On the plus side, as I noted in one of my earlier post here, if you study hard and do your part at most BW top-20 programs, you can out-compete and out-wow fellas from "wow"-top-10 schools. I also picked up a point from his comment about class size. I always thought the smaller class sizes are better (I went to a small liberal arts college for undergrad and liked the small student-to-faculty ratio) but it appears therez some utility (especially in this tough economy) to larger B-school class sizes.

Nice pointers to all of us too! Will his input have any effect on your upcoming decision? Made up your mind yet?
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Thanks Twinks ... Interesting perspective.
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My decision (and deposit) are due tomorrow. Anyone making a decision now?
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Twinks wrote:
Hi everyone,

I was recently on the road for business and I came across a Wash U Olin grad while in Paris. We exchanged cards and he was nice enough to give me his "two cents" on his experience. I thought some of his thoughts might help all of you like it did me.

He said he would give his overall experience a grade of B to B plus. The biggest positive in his view was the academic experience - he said it was "exceptional" and "awesome". He focused on finance and accounting courses, and he said it was very rigorous and all-out tough coursework. He is now a hedge fund analyst in London and he thought his preparation for finance was just as good (if not better) as his peers from top 10 schools.

About the students, he said the top quarter is very good - mostly people who got scholarship offers and could have made it at Kellogg, U Chicago, etc. He said the school definitely caters to its students and goes out of their way to help and provide resources. He said he didn't remember any activities or clubs, they didn't stand out in his head as particularly important.

About the career services, he did not use them. He already knew what he wanted to do out of B-school and built his own network and that is how he got the job he wanted. He said the small class size of 150 is not good for the school's ability to attract recruiters. He said outright - "if you are looking at B-school as a gateway to a job, Wash U is not the place for you". He recommended going in like he did - have a clear goal job and work the networks and resources to get it.

For perspective, he graduated from Olin in 1999 so things have obviously changed.

Anyway - hope it's helpful.


Hello Twinks, our globetrotting dudette :-D

Thanks your update from across the pond. One thing stood out to me: the guy was very frank and candid. On the plus side, as I noted in one of my earlier post here, if you study hard and do your part at most BW top-20 programs, you can out-compete and out-wow fellas from "wow"-top-10 schools. I also picked up a point from his comment about class size. I always thought the smaller class sizes are better (I went to a small liberal arts college for undergrad and liked the small student-to-faculty ratio) but it appears therez some utility (especially in this tough economy) to larger B-school class sizes.

Nice pointers to all of us too! Will his input have any effect on your upcoming decision? Made up your mind yet?



While evaluating B program definitely career service plays a role but question is “does it plays most important role?”

Consider one don’t have solid understanding of business fundamentals and was able to secure job in leading firm, with good package, just because one belongs to Top 10 school. Without a good foundation will the person able to rise in his / her career and provide value to job? This being said academic strength plays major role for career, and Olin with its excellent academic program and smaller class size provides this.

Also, it’s not just about core courses, electives, case competitions, clubs, etc holds importance too. With a Top 10 school’s class of 300 to 400+ sometimes it’s not even possible to enroll in your choice of subjects because of limited seats. Olin has the advantage that one can gain maximum out and don’t have to compromise just because of seats availability

We can take a look on recruiter’s perspective too, Recruiters made most optimized selection of schools based on their past experience and budget. Why would a recruiter visit 50th rank school where out of 100 members class recruiter found at most only one qualifying its expectations. This is the main reason for most good recruiters visit to Top 10. But at the same time if your resume, grades and knowledge are good, then on your contact recruiter will definitely call you for interview. With the evolvement of video interviewing this task had become much easier.

Also, there are lots of schools where regardless of you being first in class recruiters won’t select you because recruiters don’t have trust on School’s academic strength, Luckily Olin doesn’t falls into this category.

I may sound very optimistic above, but definitely if I had an invite from Top 10, I would have gone with it. If one thinks next year one can crack Top 10 and one can wait for a year then please wait. But I must say, selection at Top 10 is bit tricky with no guarantee

And btw, I already deposited my $2000 and will be joining class of 2012. See you guys there

Bye for now
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My decision (and deposit) are due tomorrow. Anyone making a decision now?

ksjhawk,

Decision day huh? What'z the word?

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Had my interview this morning. It was very conversational. Did anyone who applied for R2 have an interview already? heard back?
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Just finished my phone interview. Meh, don't think it went too well :( I was a bit nervous, and I think I over prepared this with HBS-level questions that I didn't grasp the basics.

Oh well, that was my first interview anyway, live and learn :oops:

How long you guys usually waited between interview and decision?
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Just finished my phone interview. Meh, don't think it went too well :( I was a bit nervous, and I think I over prepared this with HBS-level questions that I didn't grasp the basics.

Oh well, that was my first interview anyway, live and learn :oops:

How long you guys usually waited between interview and decision?


6 days for me. I just found out I was admitted! I'm so thrilled.

I plan on going to try and see the school. Can anyone provide advice on where to stay or any other travel information?

Thank you, and good luck to all.
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Congrats bigdre!

And admitted here too! :-D

Man that was much more sweeter than HBS's admission process.
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Did you guys(who got admitted) get a phone call? Someone called me today from Olin but I missed the call.
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Did you guys(who got admitted) get a phone call? Someone called me today from Olin but I missed the call.


I got it in email. But he mentioned that he wanted to call, but didn't since it was midnight here in Riyadh.

That is very likely an admit call mate :-D
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Did you guys(who got admitted) get a phone call? Someone called me today from Olin but I missed the call.


I got it in email. But he mentioned that he wanted to call, but didn't since it was midnight here in Riyadh.

That is very likely an admit call mate :-D


I would agree. They did leave me a voicemail though.
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Did you guys(who got admitted) get a phone call? Someone called me today from Olin but I missed the call.

Ya, if you live Statesside, you'd get a call. Check your message...
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