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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2012, 02:34
hi y'all
just received an e-mail from Kellogg Admissions for a telephonic interview for the 1-Y.
would appreciate inputs from those in the know of things, about what to expect, preparatory steps and unexpected things to watch out for.
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2012, 09:41
Hi, an application question.
One of my recommenders asked me about what's more important -LOR's word count or the thoroughness of her response. I took a look at the LOR questions (from the application "downloadable forms" section) and it seems that each question is given 250 words, which isn't really a lot.

Should I ask her to stick to the limit or to go deeper (and exceed the word count)?

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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2012, 09:55
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Hi, an application question.
One of my recommenders asked me about what's more important -LOR's word count or the thoroughness of her response. I took a look at the LOR questions (from the application "downloadable forms" section) and it seems that each question is given 250 words, which isn't really a lot.

Should I ask him to stick to the limit or to go deeper (and exceed the word count)?


Stick to the word limit. Always follow adcom directions.
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2012, 10:06
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FuzzyBuzzard wrote:
Hi, an application question.
One of my recommenders asked me about what's more important -LOR's word count or the thoroughness of her response. I took a look at the LOR questions (from the application "downloadable forms" section) and it seems that each question is given 250 words, which isn't really a lot.

Should I ask him to stick to the limit or to go deeper (and exceed the word count)?


Stick to the word limit. Always follow adcom directions.


Sounds fair. I always wonder how the AdCom reacts to when recommenders fail to follow the instructions (word count, examples and stuff). They can't blame the applicant nor the recommender (which is usually a busy person, given 5-8 questions and required to supply many details)...
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2012, 10:12
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Hi, an application question.
One of my recommenders asked me about what's more important -LOR's word count or the thoroughness of her response. I took a look at the LOR questions (from the application "downloadable forms" section) and it seems that each question is given 250 words, which isn't really a lot.

Should I ask him to stick to the limit or to go deeper (and exceed the word count)?


Stick to the word limit. Always follow adcom directions.


Sounds fair. I always wonder how the AdCom reacts to when recommenders fail to follow the instructions (word count, examples and stuff). They can't blame the applicant nor the recommender (which is usually a busy person, given 5-8 questions and required to supply many details)...


Just my opinion: they could blame the applicant for not communicating well with their recommender. If you (general you) can't even convey to your recommender, someone you ideally have a good relationship with and have known for awhile, the importance of following a laid-out set of directions from a school, how will you manage other people and teams both in business school and afterwards?
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2012, 10:27
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Just my opinion: they could blame the applicant for not communicating well with their recommender. If you (general you) can't even convey to your recommender, someone you ideally have a good relationship with and have known for awhile, the importance of following a laid-out set of directions from a school, how will you manage other people and teams both in business school and afterwards?


I see your point and agree.
Yet, the recommenderes are out of the applicant's control. Sticking to the deadline is one thing, not going over the word limit is another thing. BTW, I really appreciates Berkeley-Haas' attitude towards LOR, as posted on their Facebook page - they accept LOR's even after the deadline, knowing that the rec' are usually busy people.
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2012, 17:12
Sounds fair. I always wonder how the AdCom reacts to when recommenders fail to follow the instructions (word count, examples and stuff). They can't blame the applicant nor the recommender (which is usually a busy person, given 5-8 questions and required to supply many details)...[/quote]

Just my opinion: they could blame the applicant for not communicating well with their recommender. If you (general you) can't even convey to your recommender, someone you ideally have a good relationship with and have known for awhile, the importance of following a laid-out set of directions from a school, how will you manage other people and teams both in business school and afterwards?[/quote]

IMO: You can be +/- 10% of the word count for your essays or LOR but you shouldn't go over on every essay. They don't count the number of words but can visually gauge how long an essay is. It's better to complete a thought coherently (either you or the recommender) and be a little over, then cut out words to get you to the word count and lose the meaning all together.

Again, this is just my thoughts on the matter, but I can't imagine the AdCom's would be so shrewd to hold that against someone, especially if they don't actually count the number of words.
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 06:48
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applicant from India- got an interview invite after waiver. Received the email on Friday; have not scheduled the interview yet because the office is closed for the weekend. The email said that I need to schedule the interview by Dec 4th.


Hey rmsundaram. Congrats! Can you please share your profile with everyone.
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 06:53
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applicant from India- got an interview invite after waiver. Received the email on Friday; have not scheduled the interview yet because the office is closed for the weekend. The email said that I need to schedule the interview by Dec 4th.


Hey rmsundaram. Congrats! Can you please share your profile with everyone.




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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 06:55
anyone here has had phone interview? is it behavioural?
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 15:59
Where does it say on the Kellogg recommendation to stick with 250 words?
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 17:46
Disclaimer: I'm merely speculating. However, when you log in and check the status of your application, the following phrasing appears (emphasis added). Makes me believe that some decisions may start trickling out this week. I'm starting to freak out! Good luck, everyone!

"Application decisions may be released on or before the decision deadline, but the majority of decisions will be released during the last few weeks of the round. "
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 19:32
Thats what I thought as well. The daily nightmares and obsessive kellogg-readings begin!
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 19:52
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Where does it say on the Kellogg recommendation to stick with 250 words?


At the beginning of the rec form, it says this.
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 20:25
Given the 4th Dec information above, I guess its curtains down for me at Kellogg. a REAL bummer for me - I am a reapplicant who asked to be re itnerviewed and got a waiver and nothing after that. Kellogg was one of my strongest, if not the strongest apps, and I really love the school. I am quite perplexed as to what went wrong that I didn't even get interviewed despite being interviewed last year. Improved gmat by 40 points, double promotions, good reco .... quite disappointed.
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 20:59
I'm looking at the Rec Form from downloadbale forms on the application. I don't see any mention of word limits/guidance. Am I missing something here?
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 21:44
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I'm looking at the Rec Form from downloadbale forms on the application. I don't see any mention of word limits/guidance. Am I missing something here?


I don't remember exactly and I don't have the link any longer to the recommendation forms. But I know I saw this instruction because in my notes, I see that i wrote to myself "250 word limit" while reviewing the instructions on the online form from the recommendation link
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 22:10
Change of plan. In for R2.
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2012, 01:19
Guys temme one thing. In the 'degree' section it lists 'BTEC'. Is that what we know as 'BTech' in India?
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Re: Kellogg (Northwestern) 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2012, 03:02
Folks,

As I plan to apply for R2, would like to know if there's a list of things I need to be ready with before I hit the submit button for PART -1, and another list of things for PART -2.
Please let me know ASAP, otherwise I might ruin my chances :(
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