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In which one of the following choices must p be greater than q?

Note that we are asked "which of the following MUST be true, not COULD be true. For such kind of questions if you can prove that a statement is NOT true for one particular set of numbers, it will mean that this statement is not always true and hence not a correct answer.

A. 0.9^p = 0.9^q --> \(p=q\). Discard;
B. 0.9^p = 0.9^2q --> \(p=2q\) --> if \(p=-2\) and \(q=-1\) then \(p<q\). Discard;
C. 0.9^p > 0.9^q --> if \(p=1\) and \(q=2\) then then \(p<q\). Discard;
D. 9^p < 9^q --> \(9^{p-q}<1\) --> \(p-q<0\) --> \(p<q\). Discard;
E. 9^p > 9^q --> \(9^{p-q}>1\) --> \(p-q>0\) --> \(p>q.\) Correct.

Answer: E.


Bunuel thanks for the explanation very clear. This was a tricky problem and sometimes I have the propensity to over calculate: I'm wrong ??' do you have a suggestion ?? of course I guess to have idea in which direction I have to go but is not enough to beat problems at high level.....
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Re: In which one of the following choices must p be greater than q? [#permalink]
if x^2 >x^3 : we write x^2-x^3 >0 ie we subtract and dont divide
in this case we are dividinge is that right?



Bunuel wrote:
In which one of the following choices must p be greater than q?

Note that we are asked "which of the following MUST be true, not COULD be true. For such kind of questions if you can prove that a statement is NOT true for one particular set of numbers, it will mean that this statement is not always true and hence not a correct answer.

A. 0.9^p = 0.9^q --> \(p=q\). Discard;
B. 0.9^p = 0.9^2q --> \(p=2q\) --> if \(p=-2\) and \(q=-1\) then \(p<q\). Discard;
C. 0.9^p > 0.9^q --> if \(p=1\) and \(q=2\) then then \(p<q\). Discard;
D. 9^p < 9^q --> \(9^{p-q}<1\) --> \(p-q<0\) --> \(p<q\). Discard;
E. 9^p > 9^q --> \(9^{p-q}>1\) --> \(p-q>0\) --> \(p>q.\) Correct.

Answer: E.
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devinawilliam83 wrote:
if x^2 >x^3 : we write x^2-x^3 >0 ie we subtract and dont divide
in this case we are dividinge is that right?



Bunuel wrote:
In which one of the following choices must p be greater than q?

Note that we are asked "which of the following MUST be true, not COULD be true. For such kind of questions if you can prove that a statement is NOT true for one particular set of numbers, it will mean that this statement is not always true and hence not a correct answer.

A. 0.9^p = 0.9^q --> \(p=q\). Discard;
B. 0.9^p = 0.9^2q --> \(p=2q\) --> if \(p=-2\) and \(q=-1\) then \(p<q\). Discard;
C. 0.9^p > 0.9^q --> if \(p=1\) and \(q=2\) then then \(p<q\). Discard;
D. 9^p < 9^q --> \(9^{p-q}<1\) --> \(p-q<0\) --> \(p<q\). Discard;
E. 9^p > 9^q --> \(9^{p-q}>1\) --> \(p-q>0\) --> \(p>q.\) Correct.

Answer: E.


If its given that x^2<x^3 then since x^2>0 then we can reduce by it and write x>1;

But if its given that x>x^3 then since we don't know the sign of x then we can not reduce by it and should rewrite: x(x^2-1)<0 --> (x+1)x(x-1)<0 --> x<-1 or 0<x<1.

Check this for more - Solving Inequalities:
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range-for-variable-x-in-a-given-inequality-109468.html?hilit=extreme#p873535
everything-is-less-than-zero-108884.html?hilit=extreme#p868863

As for \(9^p<9^q\). Since \(9^q\) is positive for any value of q we can divide by it and write \(9^{p-q}<1\) --> \(p-q<0\).

Hope it helps.
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devinawilliam83 wrote:
if x^2 >x^3 : we write x^2-x^3 >0 ie we subtract and dont divide
in this case we are dividinge is that right?



If the variable is given to be non zero, you can divide in an equation and if you also know the sign of the variable, you can divide in an inequality too. (and adjust the inequality according to the sign of the variable)

e.g. \(x^3 = x\). What values can x take?
x can be 0 so we don't divide.
\(x^3 - x = 0\)
\(x(x^2 - 1) = 0\)
\(x = 0, 1, -1\)

Here, if you forget about 0 and divide by x, you get x^2 = 1 so x = +1 or -1. You lose out one solution: x = 0

But in case you have
\(x^3 = x\). What values can x take if x is non zero?
Now you can divide and you will get x = 1 or -1

Similarly, say you have an inequality: \(x^2 > x^3\)
If you divide by x^2 thinking it's non negative, you get the range x < 1 which is incorrect since you have to specify that 'x cannot be 0'. It holds for every value less than 1 other than 0.
\(x^2 > x^3\) does not hold for x = 0.

So instead, you can choose to solve in two ways:

1. Take cases and use division: \(x^2 > x^3\)
If \(x \neq 0\), we can divide. We get x < 1.
If x = 0, the inequality does not hold. Hence, \(x \neq 0\)
Answer: x < 1, \(x \neq 0\)

2. Subtract: x^3 - x^2 < 0
x^2 (x - 1) < 0
One of the terms must be negative and the other positive. Since x^2 cannot be negative, x - 1 must be negative (so x < 1) and x^2 must be positive so \(x \neq 0\)
Answer: x < 1, \(x \neq 0\)

Either way, you will get the same answer (obviously!)

In this question, as Bunuel said, \(9^q\) must be positive. It cannot take value 0 or negative for any value of q so there are no complications at all. You can easily divide.
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devinawilliam83 wrote:
if x^2 >x^3 : we write x^2-x^3 >0 ie we subtract and dont divide
in this case we are dividinge is that right?



If the variable is given to be non zero, you can divide in an equation and if you also know the sign of the variable, you can divide in an inequality too. (and adjust the inequality according to the sign of the variable)

e.g. \(x^3 = x\). What values can x take?
x can be 0 so we don't divide.
\(x^3 - x = 0\)
\(x(x^2 - 1) = 0\)
\(x = 0, 1, -1\)

Here, if you forget about 0 and divide by x, you get x^2 = 1 so x = +1 or -1. You lose out one solution: x = 0

But in case you have
\(x^3 = x\). What values can x take if x is non zero?
Now you can divide and you will get x = 1 or -1

Similarly, say you have an inequality: \(x^2 > x^3\)
If you divide by x^2 thinking it's non negative, you get the range x < 1 which is incorrect since you have to specify that 'x cannot be 0'. It holds for every value less than 1 other than 0.
\(x^2 > x^3\) does not hold for x = 0.

So instead, you can choose to solve in two ways:

1. Take cases and use division: \(x^2 > x^3\)
If \(x \neq 0\), we can divide. We get x < 1.
If x = 0, the inequality does not hold. Hence, \(x \neq 0\)
Answer: x < 1, \(x \neq 0\)

2. Subtract: x^3 - x^2 < 0
x^2 (x - 1) < 0
One of the terms must be negative and the other positive. Since x^2 cannot be negative, x - 1 must be negative (so x < 1) and x^2 must be positive so \(x \neq 0\)
Answer: x < 1, \(x \neq 0\)

Either way, you will get the same answer (obviously!)

In this question, as Bunuel said, \(9^q\) must be positive. It cannot take value 0 or negative for any value of q so there are no complications at all. You can easily divide.


One little thing Karishma.

If its given that \(x^2<x^3\) then it's clear that \(x\neq{0}\) thus \(x^2>0\) and you can safely reduce by it and write \(x>1\).
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One little thing Karishma.

If its given that \(x^2>x^3\) then it's clear that \(x\neq{0}\) thus \(x^2>0\) and you can safely reduce by it and write \(x>1\).


Sure Bunuel, I understand that one can see that when \(x^2>x^3\), x cannot be 0. But since here, you get x < 1, a range that includes x = 0, we need to specify that x can take any value less than 1 except 0. The point I am making here is that if you only reduce it and write 'x<1', it's not correct. I think you got a typo 'x > 1' above.
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Bunuel wrote:
One little thing Karishma.

If its given that \(x^2>x^3\) then it's clear that \(x\neq{0}\) thus \(x^2>0\) and you can safely reduce by it and write \(x>1\).


Sure Bunuel, I understand that one can see that when \(x^2>x^3\), x cannot be 0. But since here, you get x < 1, a range that includes x = 0, we need to specify that x can take any value less than 1 except 0. The point I am making here is that if you only reduce it and write 'x<1', it's not correct. I think you got a typo 'x > 1' above.


Actually I do have a typo but not the one you pointed above: in 4 posts above I considered x^2<x^3 (not x^2>x^3) which when reduced gives x>1.

So, it should read: if its given that \(x^2<x^3\) then it's clear that \(x\neq{0}\) thus \(x^2>0\) and you can safely reduce by it and write \(x>1\).
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Awesome post VeritasPrepKarishma and Bunuel! Thanks!
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Thanks for merging the topics Bunuel. I am new to this forum and still need to find my way around here!

About the question: even when I read the whole explanation it still does not makes sense to me.. I am having a real hard time mastering the maths section for the G-mat. My background in maths is far from average sadly. But from what I have learned so far I would say that when M = -4 and N = 2 the expression is still right but M is not bigger than N. Please help me on this one!
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The answer is E but I don't understand why. If M = -4 and N = 2 then \(9^m > 9^n\) is still correct but M is not bigger than N right?


No, that is not correct. If M = -4, then 9^M = 9^(-4) = 1/9^4, which is a positive number extremely close to zero. It is certainly less than 9^2 = 81.

In general, the bigger you make x, the larger the value of 9^x will be. This is true whenever your base is greater than 1. So if 9^y > 9^z, then y > z, and vice versa.
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Wait I am making a huge mistake here..
\(-2^3\) doesnt equal \(2^-3\) of course.

So when an exponent is negative the result will go towards zero and can be written as a fraction right?

Edit: You are right Ianstewart! Thanks for the quick answer. I am still having a real hard time mastering the math section! But I will get there!
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In which one of the following choices must p be greater than q?

(A) 0.9^p = 0.9^q
(B) 0.9^p = 0.9^2q
(C) 0.9^p > 0.9^q
(D) 9^p < 9^q
(E) 9^p > 9^q

Since the bases are equal, p and q must be the same for A and B. Those choices can be eliminated.
At this point I would substitute values for p and q in choices C and D, keeping mind to also try positive and negative values for p and q. You will find that p has to be less than q for the inequalities in C and D to hold true.
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carcass wrote:
In which one of the following choices must p be greater than q?

(A) 0.9^p = 0.9^q
(B) 0.9^p = 0.9^2q
(C) 0.9^p > 0.9^q
(D) 9^p < 9^q
(E) 9^p > 9^q


i solved in slightly more than 1 minute...do not forget to take into consideration p=q=0.
1. p=q=0 - out
2. p=q=0 - out
3. p<q - not satisfying the condition. out.
4. p<q - not satisfying the condition. out
5. p>q - good.

answer must be E.
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Only option ‘e’ necessarily requires p > q to be true.
Hence, e is the answer.
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