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Hai Karishma

can you tell me that in option B "suggested drinks" means diet soda or regular soda. i thought like suggested drink means diet soda. How can i differentiate. please explain
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Thanks Karishma for the reply.

As you pointed out that we need to focus on Conclusion in Weaken /Strengthen question, however, I need to confirm one doubt. Can we state the conclusion in our own words as you did below(colored part). i.e. Are we allowed to state the logical intent of the conclusion, just as you found out in your reply?

While going through the explanation of this question from book, same conclusion is being derived i.e the one you found out logically and then options were analyzed in order to weaken it. That is where I got confused.

Please explain.
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One of the most important things in CR - you have to strengthen/weaken the conclusion of the stimulus. Just the conclusion.

So first thing to look for is the conclusion. It is pretty straight forward here, isn't it?
It starts with 'Therefore' and fits the description of conclusion perfectly. It is the conclusion of the stimulus then.

Focus on the conclusion: if we were to substitute diet drinks for regular soda pop, it would considerably reduce our chances of getting pancreatic cancer

What is it trying to tell you? It is saying that if you reduce your sugar intake, your chances of getting pancreatic cancer reduces.

I think the only confusion is between (B) and (C).
(B) is correct because it gives you an alternative cause of pancreatic cancer - no regular exercise. Since people who consume sugar drinks are also the ones who exercise little, the ones who consume diet drinks could be more active and hence, there could be an alternative explanation. Hence the conclusion that reduction in sugar will reduce your chances of getting pancreatic cancer is weakened.

(C) is a sneaky but incorrect option. It kind of strengthens the link between sugar and cancer, doesn't it? People who drink regular pop also consume more sugar in other things. So probably, people who consume diet drinks take less sugar in other things too and hence, their risk of cancer is lower. Don't forget the intent of the conclusion - it is establishing a relation between sugar and cancer, not between soda pop and cancer. The whole stimulus is based on the amount of sugar.
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Hi TomB,
I have edited my post. Sorry for the confusion.

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can you tell me that in option B "suggested drinks" means diet soda or regular soda. i thought like suggested drink means diet soda. How can i differentiate. please explain
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Thanks Karishma for the reply.

As you pointed out that we need to focus on Conclusion in Weaken /Strengthen question, however, I need to confirm one doubt. Can we state the conclusion in our own words as you did below(colored part). i.e. Are we allowed to state the logical intent of the conclusion, just as you found out in your reply?

While going through the explanation of this question from book, same conclusion is being derived i.e the one you found out logically and then options were analyzed in order to weaken it. That is where I got confused.

Please explain.
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Yes, you certainly have to focus on the intent of the conclusion. If one replaces sugar soda pop with diet soda pop but starts drinking fruit juices with added sugar, it doesn't help, does it?

That is how Verbal is different from Quant (though CR is closest to Quant). You take Quant on face value (if the variable given is 'a', it is 'a'. The author's intent cannot be 'b'.). In Verbal, you need to deduce the author's intent sometimes.
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b) Statistically, people who consume several suggested (is this the same word used in the original question?)drinks a day are also the least likely to maintain a regular exercise regimen. It has been shown that regular exercise is a factor in reducing the pancreatic cancer.This provides us with with another reason as to why people who drink regular soda pop might be getting pancreatic cancer - Lack of exercise. Therefore since this alludes to the fact that lack of exercise and not soda pop is the reason they might be getting pancreatic cancer, this definitely weakens the conclusion.


It has been shown that regular exercise is a factor in reducing the pancreatic cancer.

Does this mean that lack of regular exercise ---> increases the chances of cancer ???
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Straight B.

One way to weaken the "To reduce pancreatic cancer, stop drinking sugared drinks" argument is to identify alternative causes of the disease. If exercise has been found to be a major reducer of the likelihood of the diseases, this revelation diminishes the need to cut down consumption of the sugared drinks.

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imhimanshu wrote:
My doubts-

I know this is a classic cause - effect reasoning, however where I got confused is what we need to Weaken.
i.e whether we need to weaken is
sugar causes a specific type of pancreatic cancer -----equation A
or
Therefore, if we were to substitute diet drinks for regular soda pop, it would considerably reduce our chances of getting pancreatic cancer --- equation B

Correct answer choice is blatant enough. Need to understand that answer choice B is weakening equation A or B

Also, I need reasoning for choice C as why that is wrong.

Thanks


One of the most important things in CR - you have to strengthen/weaken the conclusion of the stimulus. Just the conclusion.

So first thing to look for is the conclusion. It is pretty straight forward here, isn't it?
It starts with 'Therefore' and fits the description of conclusion perfectly. It is the conclusion of the stimulus then.

Focus on the conclusion: if we were to substitute diet drinks for regular soda pop, it would considerably reduce our chances of getting pancreatic cancer

What is it trying to tell you? It is saying that if you reduce your sugar intake, your chances of getting pancreatic cancer reduces.

I think the only confusion is between (B) and (C).
(B) is correct because it gives you an alternative cause of pancreatic cancer - no regular exercise. Since people who consume sugar drinks are also the ones who exercise little, the ones who consume diet drinks could be more active and hence, there could be an alternative explanation. Hence the conclusion that reduction in sugar will reduce your chances of getting pancreatic cancer is weakened.

(C) is a sneaky but incorrect option. It kind of strengthens the link between sugar and cancer, doesn't it? People who drink regular pop also consume more sugar in other things. So probably, people who consume diet drinks take less sugar in other things too and hence, their risk of cancer is lower. Don't forget the intent of the conclusion - it is establishing a relation between sugar and cancer, not between soda pop and cancer. The whole stimulus is based on the amount of sugar.


Hi Karishma,

If the stimulus is based on amount of sugar, then the fact that people drinking diet sodas would reduce/be mindful of their sugar intake in other aspects of their diet directly panders to our forethinking, correct? Option C would then mean that substituting drinks would not resolve the issue, conscious effort to reduce sugar intake would. (am i overthinking here?)

Add to it the fact that option C was my prethinking choice. So, although I took more than a minute deciding between B and C, I (obviously) went with my prethinking.
I still cant get my head around why B is the winner over C here.
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Some scientists believe that sugar causes a specific type of pancreatic cancer. They have found that people who consume at least 2 carbonated drinks containing sugar per day have a 90% higher rate of pancreatic cancer than those who drink the same number of diet drinks per day. Therefore, if we were to substitute diet drinks for regular soda pop, it would considerably reduce our chances of getting pancreatic cancer.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument above.


P: Sugar causes panc. cancer
P: 2+ sodas = 90% higher rate of panc. cancer vs. same amt of diet soda
C: Sub reg soda for diet = lower chances of panc. cancer

Need to attack the argument

a) Many diet drinks contain artificial sweeteners called cyclamates, which have been known to cause intestinal and bladder cancer in lab studies
WRONG: Don't care about int/blad cancer, this is about panc. cancer
b) Statistically, people who consume several sugared drinks a day are also the least likely to maintain a regular exercise regimen. It has been shown that regular exercise is a factor in reducing the pancreatic cancer.
Hmm....Possibly since this implies that exercise reduces panc. cancer and people who drink soda tend not to exercise much.
c) People who generally avoid sugared beverages also tend to avoid sugar in other parts of diet.
WRONG: This actually strengthens argument since if someone avoids soda, they avoid sugar sources
d) Diet drinks have actually been linked to a higher risk of weight gain
WRONG: Don't care about risk of weight gain, I care about subbing reg soda for diet = lower chances of panc. cancer
e) The study showed that the increase in rate of pancreatic cancer remained the same whether the person drank 2 or 5 sugared drinks.
WRONG: Doesn't weaken argument as the claim is at least 2+ sodas a day
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P : more sugar --> more chance of cancer
C : less sugar-- > less chance of cancer

Assumption: sugar causes cancer!

Maybe sugar doesn't cause cancer, something else does.

B. gives that alternative explanation.
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:
imhimanshu wrote:
My doubts-

I know this is a classic cause - effect reasoning, however where I got confused is what we need to Weaken.
i.e whether we need to weaken is
sugar causes a specific type of pancreatic cancer -----equation A
or
Therefore, if we were to substitute diet drinks for regular soda pop, it would considerably reduce our chances of getting pancreatic cancer --- equation B

Correct answer choice is blatant enough. Need to understand that answer choice B is weakening equation A or B

Also, I need reasoning for choice C as why that is wrong.

Thanks


One of the most important things in CR - you have to strengthen/weaken the conclusion of the stimulus. Just the conclusion.

So first thing to look for is the conclusion. It is pretty straight forward here, isn't it?
It starts with 'Therefore' and fits the description of conclusion perfectly. It is the conclusion of the stimulus then.

Focus on the conclusion: if we were to substitute diet drinks for regular soda pop, it would considerably reduce our chances of getting pancreatic cancer

What is it trying to tell you? It is saying that if you reduce your sugar intake, your chances of getting pancreatic cancer reduces.

I think the only confusion is between (B) and (C).
(B) is correct because it gives you an alternative cause of pancreatic cancer - no regular exercise. Since people who consume sugar drinks are also the ones who exercise little, the ones who consume diet drinks could be more active and hence, there could be an alternative explanation. Hence the conclusion that reduction in sugar will reduce your chances of getting pancreatic cancer is weakened.

(C) is a sneaky but incorrect option. It kind of strengthens the link between sugar and cancer, doesn't it? People who drink regular pop also consume more sugar in other things. So probably, people who consume diet drinks take less sugar in other things too and hence, their risk of cancer is lower. Don't forget the intent of the conclusion - it is establishing a relation between sugar and cancer, not between soda pop and cancer. The whole stimulus is based on the amount of sugar.


Hi Karishma,

If the stimulus is based on amount of sugar, then the fact that people drinking diet sodas would reduce/be mindful of their sugar intake in other aspects of their diet directly panders to our forethinking, correct? Option C would then mean that substituting drinks would not resolve the issue, conscious effort to reduce sugar intake would. (am i overthinking here?)

Add to it the fact that option C was my prethinking choice. So, although I took more than a minute deciding between B and C, I (obviously) went with my prethinking.
I still cant get my head around why B is the winner over C here.


Option (C) strengthens the connect between sugar and cancer. People who drink diet pop, avoid sugar at other places too. These people see lower incidence of cancer.
It, in a way, strengthens our conclusion. If you drop regular soda and drink diet one, you will be reducing your sugar intake and that will reduce the chances of cancer. It might reduce the chances by 30% (instead of 80-90% as seen by the scientists) but it is probable that it will reduce the chances.
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