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The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 [#permalink] New post 16 May 2008, 03:22
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The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

A. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts

B. begins at 9 a.m., continuing until the supply lasts

C. will begin at 9 a.m. and, until the supply lasts, will continue

D. begins at 9 a.m. and, as long as the supply may last, it continues

E. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts
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Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink] New post 16 May 2008, 03:33
A.
until refers to some 'time'...
'as long as' is generic

Not very sure b/w A and E
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Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink] New post 16 May 2008, 03:38
What is the difference between A and E? For me both sounds good.

May be, E is better.
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Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink] New post 16 May 2008, 04:06
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zoltan wrote:
What is the difference between A and E? For me both sounds good.

May be, E is better.


Difference between A and E;

A uses "until", which can be used as a preposition and also as a conjunction. Here it's used as a conjunction.
used as a function word to indicate continuance to a specified time. Now, always try to grasp the meaning of the sentence and you'll catch it faster than grappling with the intricacies of grammar.
Choice "A" says that sales continue until " the sales last". It does not specify the "end time", until which sales continue.

Whereas in "E", "as long as" is the idiom.( a well known idiom!...for example " as long as you are surrounded by idiot people, you can't achieve your goals ). It implies continue "For the period of time that" that sales last! Till the sales last...it continues!

Thus this is better choice.
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Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink] New post 16 May 2008, 05:02
Wow, completely confused!!! +1 for BSD. Will look forward to the OA! :stupid
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Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink] New post 16 May 2008, 05:25
OA is E - good explanation LM +1
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Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink] New post 16 May 2008, 10:03
little late..agree with E.
Until needs an 'end time'. {ex: until 5 O'clock, etc)
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Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink] New post 17 May 2008, 08:05
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The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

A. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts

B. begins at 9 a.m., continuing until the supply lasts

C. will begin at 9 a.m. and, until the supply lasts, will continue

D. begins at 9 a.m. and, as long as the supply may last, it continues

E. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts


Very nice question. I chose E as well. But was not really sure of the reason. What's the source again?

continue until the supply lasts seems alright as well. I chose as long as purely because it sounded better than the previous construct.
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Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink] New post 06 Mar 2011, 06:55
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"Until" denotes continuation until a stopping event triggers. ie I kept working until he told me to stop.
"As long as" is conditional and can be written to "provided that", "at the condition that" i.e. I will keep working as long as you work with me. Or the sale will continue as long as supplies last. Very subtle difference.
So "Until" is not the best choice here because there is no "triggering event" that will stop the sale.
Rather, the stop of the sale is conditional, under the condition that as soon as the supplies run out, the sale will stop.
So it becomes E :lol:
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Re: The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 [#permalink] New post 30 Dec 2011, 22:35
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my take on 'as long as' and 'until' is...

Both are triggering events but only differ in their significance.

For e.g take event A depends on event B.

We should use 'as long as' to indicate that A is valid till the time B is valid, i.e., the moment B completes, A is also over.

We should use 'until' to indicate that A is valid till the time B is invalid, i.e. the moment B starts, A is over.

Ex:

1. Ram stays here as long as Lakshman stays here --> the moment Lakshman leaves, Ram also leaves.
2. Ram stays here until Lakshman arrives here --> the moment Lakshman comes, Ram leaves.

In both of the cases Ram's staying depends on Lakshman's presence but how is the question.

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The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2013, 09:31
1. The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

2. The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts.

Can anyone help to understand the difference in meaning?

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Re: The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2013, 09:55
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1. The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

2. The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts.

Can anyone help to understand the difference in meaning?


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Re: The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2014, 21:25
'And' is a parallelism indicator. So should'nt we look for a sentence which says '....will being at 9:00am and WILL continue.....'

Only option C comes anywhere close to this construction.

Kindly let me know why parallelism doesn't take precedence here. Thank you.
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