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The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

(A) will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts

(B) begins at 9 a.m., continuing until the supply lasts

(C) will begin at 9 a.m. and, until the supply lasts, will continue

(D) begins at 9 a.m. and, as long as the supply may last, it continues

(E) will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts
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E.

(A) will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts <-- "until the supply lasts" is incorrect. It's more appropriate to say "until the supply ends" or "until everything is gone"
(B) begins at 9 a.m., continuing until the supply lasts *same with A
(C) will begin at 9 a.m. and, until the supply lasts, will continue *same with A
(D) begins at 9 a.m. and, as long as the supply may last, it continues <-- "it" is unclear
(E) will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts <-- correct

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yup, straight E.

"until the supply lasts" sounds like the sale goes on until all of a sudden "the supply lasts!" like it's some even that will being happening in the future

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OA is E. you guys are good. i managed to narrow my answer choices to A and E, but then ended up choosing A. thanks guys

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A.
until refers to some 'time'...
'as long as' is generic

Not very sure b/w A and E

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What is the difference between A and E? For me both sounds good.

May be, E is better.

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zoltan wrote:
What is the difference between A and E? For me both sounds good.

May be, E is better.


Difference between A and E;

A uses "until", which can be used as a preposition and also as a conjunction. Here it's used as a conjunction.
used as a function word to indicate continuance to a specified time. Now, always try to grasp the meaning of the sentence and you'll catch it faster than grappling with the intricacies of grammar.
Choice "A" says that sales continue until " the sales last". It does not specify the "end time", until which sales continue.

Whereas in "E", "as long as" is the idiom.( a well known idiom!...for example " as long as you are surrounded by idiot people, you can't achieve your goals ). It implies continue "For the period of time that" that sales last! Till the sales last...it continues!

Thus this is better choice.

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Wow, completely confused!!! +1 for BSD. Will look forward to the OA! :stupid

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little late..agree with E.
Until needs an 'end time'. {ex: until 5 O'clock, etc)

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The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

A. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts

B. begins at 9 a.m., continuing until the supply lasts

C. will begin at 9 a.m. and, until the supply lasts, will continue

D. begins at 9 a.m. and, as long as the supply may last, it continues

E. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts


Very nice question. I chose E as well. But was not really sure of the reason. What's the source again?

continue until the supply lasts seems alright as well. I chose as long as purely because it sounded better than the previous construct.

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"Until" denotes continuation until a stopping event triggers. ie I kept working until he told me to stop.
"As long as" is conditional and can be written to "provided that", "at the condition that" i.e. I will keep working as long as you work with me. Or the sale will continue as long as supplies last. Very subtle difference.
So "Until" is not the best choice here because there is no "triggering event" that will stop the sale.
Rather, the stop of the sale is conditional, under the condition that as soon as the supplies run out, the sale will stop.
So it becomes E :lol:
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OA is E

"Until" denotes continuation until a stopping event triggers. ie I kept working until he told me to stop.
"As long as" is conditional and can be written to "provided that", "at the condition that" i.e. I will keep working as long as you work with me. Or the sale will continue as long as supplies last. Very subtle difference.
So "Until" is not the best choice here because there is no "triggering event" that will stop the sale.
Rather, the stop of the sale is conditional, under the condition that as soon as the supplies run out, the sale will stop.
ABC are gone for using Until.
D is useless
So it becomes E :lol:
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+1 E

"until" is for specific moment (for instance, a date).
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Folks I came across this SC in one of the KAPLAN material. Cannot understand the reasoning behind the answer

During the 18th century roughly 0.5 billion grams of gold are estimated to have left Columbia, Peru, Ecuador, Panama and Haiti and supplied 80% of world's total quantity of recovered gold.

a) During the 18th century roughly 0.5 billion grams of gold are estimated to have left Columbia, Peru, Ecuador, Panama and Haiti and supplied
b) During 18th century it is estimated that roughly 0.5 billion grams of gold left Columbia, Peru, Ecuador, Panama and Haiti and supplied
c) It is estimated that there was roughly 0.5 billion grams of gold that left Columbia, Peru, Ecuador, Panama and Haiti during the 18th century and supplied
d) It is estimated that during the 18th century roughly 0.5 billion grams of gold left Columbia, Peru, Ecuador, Panama and Haiti, supplying
e) Roughly 0.5 billion grams of gold is estimated as having left Columbia, Peru, Ecuador, Panama and Haiti, supplying




I answered b to maintain the verb tense as the gold left in the past and was supplied in the past. But the correct answer is something else. What do you think guys/gals?

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+1 E.

D is wordy, and the other 3 have meaning problem.

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+1 E.

D is wordy, and the other 3 have meaning problem.


'E' does not have the 18th century reference, hence incorrect according to me. I could be wrong

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The answer is D for the question but can anyone help to address my doubt mentioned below the question

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So vicious of them ! There is clearly no colloquial difference between A and E - until / as long as.

until = upto a time

whichscore wrote:
The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the
supply lasts.

(A) will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts
(B) begins at 9 a.m., continuing until the supply lasts
(C) will begin at 9 a.m. and, until the supply lasts, will continue
(D) begins at 9 a.m. and, as long as the supply may last, it continues
(E) will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts

Answer + explanation please 1

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use of until is wrong here
u can refer to this thread to know about correct usage of "until"
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my take on 'as long as' and 'until' is...

Both are triggering events but only differ in their significance.

For e.g take event A depends on event B.

We should use 'as long as' to indicate that A is valid till the time B is valid, i.e., the moment B completes, A is also over.

We should use 'until' to indicate that A is valid till the time B is invalid, i.e. the moment B starts, A is over.

Ex:

1. Ram stays here as long as Lakshman stays here --> the moment Lakshman leaves, Ram also leaves.
2. Ram stays here until Lakshman arrives here --> the moment Lakshman comes, Ram leaves.

In both of the cases Ram's staying depends on Lakshman's presence but how is the question.

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