Check GMAT Club Decision Tracker for the Latest School Decision Releases https://gmatclub.com/AppTrack

 It is currently 23 May 2017, 23:15

### GMAT Club Daily Prep

#### Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

# Events & Promotions

###### Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

# The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9

Author Message
TAGS:

### Hide Tags

CEO
Joined: 17 May 2007
Posts: 2959
Followers: 61

Kudos [?]: 601 [2] , given: 210

The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 [#permalink]

### Show Tags

16 May 2008, 04:22
2
KUDOS
2
This post was
BOOKMARKED
00:00

Difficulty:

(N/A)

Question Stats:

64% (01:31) correct 36% (00:28) wrong based on 106 sessions

### HideShow timer Statistics

The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

A. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts

B. begins at 9 a.m., continuing until the supply lasts

C. will begin at 9 a.m. and, until the supply lasts, will continue

D. begins at 9 a.m. and, as long as the supply may last, it continues

E. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts
If you have any questions
New!
Manager
Joined: 27 Jul 2007
Posts: 112
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 8 [0], given: 0

Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink]

### Show Tags

16 May 2008, 04:33
A.
until refers to some 'time'...
'as long as' is generic

Not very sure b/w A and E
Senior Manager
Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 302
Location: Hungary
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 27 [0], given: 3

Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink]

### Show Tags

16 May 2008, 04:38
What is the difference between A and E? For me both sounds good.

May be, E is better.
Director
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 875
Followers: 7

Kudos [?]: 891 [3] , given: 33

Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink]

### Show Tags

16 May 2008, 05:06
3
KUDOS
1
This post was
BOOKMARKED
zoltan wrote:
What is the difference between A and E? For me both sounds good.

May be, E is better.

Difference between A and E;

A uses "until", which can be used as a preposition and also as a conjunction. Here it's used as a conjunction.
used as a function word to indicate continuance to a specified time. Now, always try to grasp the meaning of the sentence and you'll catch it faster than grappling with the intricacies of grammar.
Choice "A" says that sales continue until " the sales last". It does not specify the "end time", until which sales continue.

Whereas in "E", "as long as" is the idiom.( a well known idiom!...for example " as long as you are surrounded by idiot people, you can't achieve your goals ). It implies continue "For the period of time that" that sales last! Till the sales last...it continues!

Thus this is better choice.
Senior Manager
Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 321
Location: India
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 48 [0], given: 0

Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink]

### Show Tags

16 May 2008, 06:02
Wow, completely confused!!! +1 for BSD. Will look forward to the OA!
CEO
Joined: 17 May 2007
Posts: 2959
Followers: 61

Kudos [?]: 601 [0], given: 210

Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink]

### Show Tags

16 May 2008, 06:25
OA is E - good explanation LM +1
Director
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Posts: 549
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 391 [0], given: 2

Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink]

### Show Tags

16 May 2008, 11:03
little late..agree with E.
Until needs an 'end time'. {ex: until 5 O'clock, etc)
VP
Joined: 15 Jul 2004
Posts: 1457
Schools: Wharton (R2 - submitted); HBS (R2 - submitted); IIMA (admitted for 1 year PGPX)
Followers: 22

Kudos [?]: 195 [0], given: 13

Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink]

### Show Tags

17 May 2008, 09:05
bsd_lover wrote:
The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

A. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts

B. begins at 9 a.m., continuing until the supply lasts

C. will begin at 9 a.m. and, until the supply lasts, will continue

D. begins at 9 a.m. and, as long as the supply may last, it continues

E. will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts

Very nice question. I chose E as well. But was not really sure of the reason. What's the source again?

continue until the supply lasts seems alright as well. I chose as long as purely because it sounded better than the previous construct.
Senior Manager
Joined: 29 Oct 2008
Posts: 408
Location: United States
Concentration: Marketing, Technology
Followers: 9

Kudos [?]: 290 [2] , given: 34

Re: SC - Government surplus [#permalink]

### Show Tags

06 Mar 2011, 07:55
2
KUDOS
"Until" denotes continuation until a stopping event triggers. ie I kept working until he told me to stop.
"As long as" is conditional and can be written to "provided that", "at the condition that" i.e. I will keep working as long as you work with me. Or the sale will continue as long as supplies last. Very subtle difference.
So "Until" is not the best choice here because there is no "triggering event" that will stop the sale.
Rather, the stop of the sale is conditional, under the condition that as soon as the supplies run out, the sale will stop.
So it becomes E
_________________

If you know what you're worth, then go out and get what you're worth. But you gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of anybody! Cowards do that and You're better than that!
The path is long, but self-surrender makes it short; the way is difficult, but perfect trust makes it easy.

Fire the final bullet only when you are constantly hitting the Bull's eye, till then KEEP PRACTICING.
Failure establishes only this, that our determination to succeed was not strong enough.
Getting defeated is just a temporary notion, giving it up is what makes it permanent.

http://gmatclub.com/forum/1000-sc-notes-at-one-place-in-one-document-with-best-of-explanations-192961.html

Press +1 Kudos, if you think my post gave u a tiny tip.

Senior Manager
Joined: 25 Nov 2011
Posts: 256
Location: India
Concentration: Technology, General Management
GPA: 3.95
WE: Information Technology (Computer Software)
Followers: 4

Kudos [?]: 183 [1] , given: 20

Re: The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 [#permalink]

### Show Tags

30 Dec 2011, 23:35
1
KUDOS
my take on 'as long as' and 'until' is...

Both are triggering events but only differ in their significance.

For e.g take event A depends on event B.

We should use 'as long as' to indicate that A is valid till the time B is valid, i.e., the moment B completes, A is also over.

We should use 'until' to indicate that A is valid till the time B is invalid, i.e. the moment B starts, A is over.

Ex:

1. Ram stays here as long as Lakshman stays here --> the moment Lakshman leaves, Ram also leaves.
2. Ram stays here until Lakshman arrives here --> the moment Lakshman comes, Ram leaves.

In both of the cases Ram's staying depends on Lakshman's presence but how is the question.

_________________

-------------------------
-Aravind Chembeti

Intern
Joined: 01 Feb 2012
Posts: 26
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 4 [0], given: 6

The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m [#permalink]

### Show Tags

14 Jun 2013, 10:31
1. The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

2. The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts.

Can anyone help to understand the difference in meaning?

Last edited by Zarrolou on 14 Jun 2013, 10:52, edited 1 time in total.
Merging similar topics.
Manager
Status: Applying
Joined: 01 Dec 2012
Posts: 92
Location: United States (OH)
Concentration: Strategy, Entrepreneurship
GMAT 1: 750 Q50 V42
GPA: 2.9
WE: Consulting (Consulting)
Followers: 11

Kudos [?]: 86 [2] , given: 67

Re: The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m [#permalink]

### Show Tags

14 Jun 2013, 10:55
2
KUDOS
hitgmathard wrote:
1. The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue until the supply lasts.

2. The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 a.m. and continue as long as the supply lasts.

Can anyone help to understand the difference in meaning?

--> the-sale-of-government-surplus-machinery-will-begin-at-64024.html#p1022169

--> http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/unt ... 12746.html

Enjoy!
_________________

Regards,
Vishnu

Article --> http://www.topmba.com/blog/could-mba-degree-be-way-forward

Intern
Joined: 05 Mar 2014
Posts: 25
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 26 [0], given: 20

Re: The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 [#permalink]

### Show Tags

09 Jul 2014, 22:25
'And' is a parallelism indicator. So should'nt we look for a sentence which says '....will being at 9:00am and WILL continue.....'

Only option C comes anywhere close to this construction.

Kindly let me know why parallelism doesn't take precedence here. Thank you.
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 01 Oct 2013
Posts: 10372
Followers: 996

Kudos [?]: 224 [0], given: 0

Re: The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 [#permalink]

### Show Tags

19 Aug 2015, 07:34
Hello from the GMAT Club VerbalBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
Manager
Joined: 05 Oct 2016
Posts: 152
Location: China
Concentration: Healthcare, Entrepreneurship
WE: Sales (Health Care)
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 19 [0], given: 10

Re: The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 [#permalink]

### Show Tags

10 Mar 2017, 21:56
joshnsit wrote:
"Until" denotes continuation until a stopping event triggers. ie I kept working until he told me to stop.
"As long as" is conditional and can be written to "provided that", "at the condition that" i.e. I will keep working as long as you work with me. Or the sale will continue as long as supplies last. Very subtle difference.
So "Until" is not the best choice here because there is no "triggering event" that will stop the sale.
Rather, the stop of the sale is conditional, under the condition that as soon as the supplies run out, the sale will stop.
So it becomes E

i'm convinced by this one~really help a lot~
_________________

LSAT CR is driving me mad

Re: The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9   [#permalink] 10 Mar 2017, 21:56
Similar topics Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
The government's means of disposal of war surplus following 2 31 Aug 2012, 11:57
The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 3 19 Apr 2012, 14:18
27 The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 13 09 Nov 2016, 11:19
1 Municipal governments are beginning to confront the growing 2 08 Sep 2016, 09:08
24 The sale of government surplus machinery will begin at 9 15 02 Feb 2017, 19:23
Display posts from previous: Sort by