kingfalcon wrote:
coby9999 wrote:
kingfalcon wrote:
IMO, these schools are pretty much peers. I think Fuqua places a little better in consulting and Duke has a slightly better international brand than UMich, so I would probably choose Fuqua if you were completely on the fence between the two. That said, if the Ross culture and opportunities resonate with you more, then you are more likely to thrive there. Honestly, every year there are cross-admits between these schools (and Darden) and people tend to make their decisions based on fit (and rightfully so).
Sorry to be a bit a**hole, but do you have any evidence to prove Fuqua places better in consulting vs Michigan? Below are the numbers grabbed from both schools' career report. My takeaway from them is that Michigan has a slight edge in MBB placement, while both school have similar level in consulting placement in general.
Michigan 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 Mean
MBB vs Total 8.0% 5.9% 5.5% 8.0% 8.0% 7.4% 7.1%
Consulting vs Total 25% 25% 26% 28% 32% 33% 28%
Duke 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 Mean
MBB vs Total 4.4% 4.9% 2.8% 8.4% 9.3% 5.3% 5.9%
Consulting vs Total 25% 30% 20% 30% 33% 31% 28%
Alright, buddy. Why don't you tone down the aggression a little bit? Notice how I said the two schools are peer schools?
Anyways, here is the data from 2013 for MBBD full-time offers plus internships:
Ross: 104 / 1003 = 10.3%
Fuqua: 116 / 875 = 13.2%
Now, I'm not going to run the numbers for previous years, but what you are likely seeing on your end is a high percentage of Ross students going to Accenture and EY, which is inflating Ross's consulting figures.
That said, I made it clear that I feel like the schools are peer schools and that Duke is (at best) marginally better. I agree with the poster above me that fit is more important here.
Sorry to be tough... Actually I do agree that these two are peer school, while I am not convinced by the statement saying Duke is marginally better in consulting placement. I did a similar thing below, including MBB+D+Booz+ATK in the scope. Duke got a higher % in 2011, which has been boosted mainly by the 35 hires from Deloitte (vs Michigan's 20). Other than that, Michigan has a higher MBB+D % as well as MBB+D+Booz+ATK % for most of the time.
Michigan 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Mck 16 10 13 19 14 17
Bain 5 10 5 8 9 8
BCG 12 5 6 13 16 12
Deloitte 11 13 11 20 29 25
Booz 9 6 6 5 8 5
ATK 5 8 0 6 7 4
MBB+D 44 38 35 60 68 62
MBB+D/B/A 58 52 41 71 83 71
Total size 410 427 434 500 488 501
MBB+D 10.7% 8.9% 8.1% 12.0%13.9%12.4%
MBB+D/B/A 14.1% 12.2%9.4%14.2%17.0%14.2%
Duke 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Mck 9 4 7 15 18 7
Bain 6 6 2 7 9 10
BCG 4 11 3 14 13 6
Deloitte 11 17 18 35 30 28
Booz NA 2 1 3 NA 4
ATK NA 2 NA NA 2 5
MBB+D 30 38 30 71 70 51
MBB+D/B/A 30 42 31 74 72 60
Total size 430 430 430 430 430 430
MBB+D 7.0% 8.8% 7.0% 16.5%16.3%11.9%
MBB+D/B/A 7.0% 9.8% 7.2% 17.2%16.7%14.0%