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I don't want to discourage you, quite opposite, but I certainly don't think 8 weeks would be enough to increase math from 32 to desired level. For verbal, situation is even worse. Instead, you should spend next couple of months in serious preparation for this exam. Spend entire winter studying for GMAT from OG and MGMAT books and schedule your exam for May or June. That way, you will see some serious improvement in your score, 8 weeks will be sufficient to get you in high 500's or something like that.

Even if you manage to improve your score dramatically (we are talking about 200 points improvement, improvement that is nearly impossible from 550 but very viable from 400's), you simply have not enough time to complete your applications for the year 2009. Simply postpone your MBA dream for a year, make serious schedule for next year and stick to it. That way, you'll be able to enter next summer with score that will impress your recommenders and that will give you enough self-confidence for the essays. Additionally, if you have to take TOEFL you will have more than enough time to do that and meet the deadlines for R1.

No matter what you think about it now, one year will pass in the blink of an eye and you should use the time wisely, especially since you don't have the full year, we are talking about some 9 or 10 months now. This is two cents from somebody who has already done so: I took GMAT in October 2007 and scored 610, at that time I was already 30 and felt that I don't have much time. Nevertheless, I spent entire winter in preparations and took GMAT again in April this year scoring 720. After that I had enoug time to research schools, get recommendations, take TOEFL, write essays and meet all other requirements for applying in R1.
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I'm in the same boat. I scored a 490. Talk about letting the wind out of your sails. What I find interesting is that with my GPA (3.80), I can't even get some schools to talk to me. I am realizing how important that score is. Maybe it's not the only indication of your ability, however, it seems that the schools use it to gauge the question of "how bad do you want it?" I enrolled in a math class at the local university and am waiting for my Manhattan GMAT books to arrive. I plan to start from the first book and work my way through them, shooting for accuracy on all the problem sets. Once I get going with that, I'll start with the challenges on this page. I don't necessarily need a 700+, but something above 650 will get me where I want to go.

So, good luck with your studying. Maybe we'll find ourselves in a discussion on the GMAT questions. All the best to you!
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Re: scored 440 on first try..helps needed!!!! [#permalink]
mbamph,
I'm gonna do the same buy all the Manhattan Math books and get it right the next time around...
I dont think it needs 6 months and a 180 change of plans as pathfinder was saying. I have 1 friend that scored 540 the first time and a month later 690 and the other 560 the first time and a month later 700...they're both strong students and knew (like i do) that this cant happen again it was a one time mistake..the idea is if you were scoring in the 640+ at home on the GMAC CAT and you score so low (530 in my case) at the actual test than something went wrong it's not just lack of preparation.
I admit and have heard though from many people that lifting a score from 620 or 630 to 700 is much harder than lifting it from 500s to 650 cuz it means you did your best the first time already.

In all cases, we all have our stories and conclusions so I wish you the best as well in your next result!
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I'm in the same boat. I scored a 490. Talk about letting the wind out of your sails. What I find interesting is that with my GPA (3.80), I can't even get some schools to talk to me. I am realizing how important that score is. Maybe it's not the only indication of your ability, however, it seems that the schools use it to gauge the question of "how bad do you want it?" I enrolled in a math class at the local university and am waiting for my Manhattan GMAT books to arrive. I plan to start from the first book and work my way through them, shooting for accuracy on all the problem sets. Once I get going with that, I'll start with the challenges on this page. I don't necessarily need a 700+, but something above 650 will get me where I want to go.

So, good luck with your studying. Maybe we'll find ourselves in a discussion on the GMAT questions. All the best to you!



How are you going to study for it? I am wondering if I should study 5 hours a day? I am very frustrated before I am actually apply for Master of Accountancy and not MBA, and a gmat score with 650+ is good enough for me I think.
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I don't want to discourage you, quite opposite, but I certainly don't think 8 weeks would be enough to increase math from 32 to desired level. For verbal, situation is even worse. Instead, you should spend next couple of months in serious preparation for this exam. Spend entire winter studying for GMAT from OG and MGMAT books and schedule your exam for May or June. That way, you will see some serious improvement in your score, 8 weeks will be sufficient to get you in high 500's or something like that.

Even if you manage to improve your score dramatically (we are talking about 200 points improvement, improvement that is nearly impossible from 550 but very viable from 400's), you simply have not enough time to complete your applications for the year 2009. Simply postpone your MBA dream for a year, make serious schedule for next year and stick to it. That way, you'll be able to enter next summer with score that will impress your recommenders and that will give you enough self-confidence for the essays. Additionally, if you have to take TOEFL you will have more than enough time to do that and meet the deadlines for R1.

No matter what you think about it now, one year will pass in the blink of an eye and you should use the time wisely, especially since you don't have the full year, we are talking about some 9 or 10 months now. This is two cents from somebody who has already done so: I took GMAT in October 2007 and scored 610, at that time I was already 30 and felt that I don't have much time. Nevertheless, I spent entire winter in preparations and took GMAT again in April this year scoring 720. After that I had enoug time to research schools, get recommendations, take TOEFL, write essays and meet all other requirements for applying in R1.


Thank you for sharing your experience. How much time did you spend on studying the material each day during the winter? and what was your strategies??
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You are welcome.

I spent 15 hours per week on average during that winter. My math skills were very rusty and English is not my native language. So, there was a lot of work to be done.

For my strategies you can search my older posts, I've written some inputs on learning strategies and on materials to be used. Of course, this is just my experience and my point of view, it doesn't necesserilly mean that you will benefit from it. Anyway, be persistant and you will find your way to 700+ club. I wish you all the best. :)
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I don't think I can put in 5 hours a day. My brain can only take so much at a given time (I work full time and am taking Calculus too...) I think 5 hours on Sat and Sun is reasonable, but during the week, maybe 1 or 2 hours max. My weakness was math, I did 60% in verbal and a 5.5 on AWA. I can't wait to get my MGMAT books!
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Scored 420 on first try, and need to get 650+. Can anyone who has been in my position and that has scored 650+ tell me how you did it? I am not sure what happened I think it was lack of preparation.
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Scored 420 on first try, and need to get 650+. Can anyone who has been in my position and that has scored 650+ tell me how you did it? I am not sure what happened I think it was lack of preparation.


What's your score breakdown? What have you been doing to study?
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got a 410..........V20 and Q26. I am gonna get back to studying on 01/03 so
I need not worry about any distractions. I have the GMAC Official Guide as
well as the 2 supplements. Plan on giving myself until end of March,
beginning of April to take test.........(13-15 weeks) Actually was in one
of those Kaplan courses and did not take GMAT seriously.
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I strongly recommend the Manhattan GMAT books. I am through my first one and really like the way they present the material. I feel like I am learning GMAT questions even as I study number properties.

However, I am struggling with data sufficiency. Does anyone have any advice on how to best approach these questions? I am struggling with clarifying the questions. Do you get better at this as you go through the books?
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Re: scored 440 on first try..helps needed!!!! [#permalink]
promoters wrote:
check GmaxOnline
might be helpful


You give this exact advice every time you post something.
Are you a sales rep for Gmax Online?
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:lol: maybe he should register with a more discrete username.
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Re: scored 440 on first try..helps needed!!!! [#permalink]
ninkorn wrote:
promoters wrote:
check GmaxOnline
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You give this exact advice every time you post something.
Are you a sales rep for Gmax Online?


Yes, and the message is sooo inspiring and imaginative that I just cannot resist, I have to check GmaxOnline :twisted:

I simply adore this type of posts:
"congrats"
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But my favorite these days was guy named "sjpre10" - he wrote 100+ posts in a matter of hours:
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you can get to 700+ - many people on this site went from 400-420 to 700+ --> search for '400 to 700'
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Re: scored 440 on first try..helps needed!!!! [#permalink]
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Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I seriously need some help from you guys.

I am very frustrated that I scored 440 on my first GMAT test last week.
32 on Quant and 18 on Verbal which is really bad.
I spent about a month to study for the test and decided to give it a shot to see where I stand.
I did most problems in the OG (I answered most questions correctly but I did not time them)and took one timed CAT test from MGMAT with results of 520.
I was very nervous the night before the test and I could not sleep at all. And in the test, I was actually running out of time for both Quant and Verbal. Especially for the Verbal part, I had 7 more questions when I had only 7 mins left on the test. Wonder if anyone could share some time-management strategy and tips on improving both parts?

1) I am planning to retake the test in about 8 weeks. Is there enough time?
2) Is it possible for me to score higher?
3) How much time should I spend on studying the materials? (I am planning to study at least 6 hours a day, will it be too much?)
4) What material is the best?

I wish I found this forum earlier and could have asked all these questions. The result of my first test was really frustrating. :cry:

Any help is much appreciated.


You can follow this path:
Just start your prep without taking GMAT date but keep a tentative date in your mind...Start prepping...Start giving MGMATs and GMATPREPs...when you get 730+ in 3 consecutive prac tests then you can book the actual GMAT date within 15 days period. i think this is the better way instead of taking a GMAT date and then going into procrastination mode.
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Hi mine is same problem , I took GMAT yesterday and got 440 , Q42 and V11 ,a very low score in verbal , I am applying for MS accounting and I have a GPA of 3.7 in my bachelors , can anybody advice me how to improve my verbal score, I am not Native American.
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