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I did not get how to choose between ii and iii. We know x to be prime. How can we dismiss ii then?
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I did not get how to choose between ii and iii. We know x to be prime. How can we dismiss ii then?


You use the answer choices to make your decision. If ii is true than iii has to be true but we don't have any answer choice with all 3 options. Hence we go for i & iii
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Let the function p(n) represent the product of the first n prime numbers, where n > 0. If x = p(n) + 1, which of the following must be true?

(i) x is always odd

(ii) x is always prime

(iii) x is never the square of an integer

A. ii only
B. iii only
C. i and ii only
D. i and iii only
E. ii and iii only


p(n) is always even, because the first prime is 2 and no matter what n is, 2 always will be a divisor of p(n). Thus, p(n) + 1 = even + 1 = odd. So, (i) is always true.

Now, use logic:

If (ii) is true (so if x is always prime), then (iii) must automatically be true: no prime is the square of an integer. So, the correct answer must be i only; i, ii, and iii only; or i and iii only. since only "i and iii only" is among the options, then it must be true.

Or, since (i) is always true, then from options the answer must be either C or D. C cannot be correct because if (ii) is true, then so must be (iii). Thus only D remains.

Answer: D.

Hi Bunuel,
I'm just wondering whether ii is not true? Is there any case that makes ii is not true?

Thanks indeed
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Bunuel wrote:
Vijayeta wrote:
Let the function p(n) represent the product of the first n prime numbers, where n > 0. If x = p(n) + 1, which of the following must be true?

(i) x is always odd

(ii) x is always prime

(iii) x is never the square of an integer

A. ii only
B. iii only
C. i and ii only
D. i and iii only
E. ii and iii only


p(n) is always even, because the first prime is 2 and no matter what n is, 2 always will be a divisor of p(n). Thus, p(n) + 1 = even + 1 = odd. So, (i) is always true.

Now, use logic:

If (ii) is true (so if x is always prime), then (iii) must automatically be true: no prime is the square of an integer. So, the correct answer must be i only; i, ii, and iii only; or i and iii only. since only "i and iii only" is among the options, then it must be true.

Or, since (i) is always true, then from options the answer must be either C or D. C cannot be correct because if (ii) is true, then so must be (iii). Thus only D remains.

Answer: D.

Hi Bunuel,
I'm just wondering whether ii is not true? Is there any case that makes ii is not true?

Thanks indeed


\(p(6) + 1 = 2*3*5*7*11*13+1=30031 = 59*509\) is not a prime.
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Hi Bunuel,
I'm just wondering whether ii is not true? Is there any case that makes ii is not true?

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\(p(6) + 1 = 2*3*5*7*11*13+1=30031 = 59*509\) is not a prime.


Thanks for your quick response. Btw, is there any way to be sure (theoretically) in case we cannot figure out by example?
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Hi Bunuel,
I'm just wondering whether ii is not true? Is there any case that makes ii is not true?

Thanks indeed


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\(p(6) + 1 = 2*3*5*7*11*13+1=30031 = 59*509\) is not a prime.


Thanks for your quick response. Btw, is there any way to be sure (theoretically) in case we cannot figure out by example?


There is no known formula for prime numbers (in fact it's one of the biggest math challenges), so p(n) + 1 cannot be prime for all values of n, else we would have the formula which gives primes.
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Got it, thanks Bunuel.
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try plugging in numbers. If n=2 then 2X3+1=7
if n=3 then 2*3*5=30+1=31 the answer will always be odd b/c 2 is a prime and the product will always be an even plus 1

If you try n=4 then you get 2*3*5*7=210 which is not a prime

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Vijayeta wrote:
Let the function p(n) represent the product of the first n prime numbers, where n > 0. If x = p(n) + 1, which of the following must be true?

(i) x is always odd

(ii) x is always prime

(iii) x is never the square of an integer

A. ii only
B. iii only
C. i and ii only
D. i and iii only
E. ii and iii only


When the GMAT asks whether a value must be prime -- and that value can be extremely large -- the answer must be NO.
The reason:
The GMAT cannot expect us to prove that an extremely large number is prime.
Here, x can be INFINITELY LARGE.
Since the GMAT cannot expect us to prove that infinitely large options for x must be prime, we can conclude that Statement II does NOT have to be true.
Eliminate A, C and E.

Since the product of the first n prime numbers must include a factor of 2, p(n) = EVEN, with the result that p(n) + 1 = ODD.
Thus, Statement I must be true.
Eliminate B.

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