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Re: Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his frie [#permalink]
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And what is your answe choice? I confuse between A and D, if you choose A, can you explain to me why we eliminate D? Thanks


the answer has to be A : Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes

D is wrong because we need this sentence in the same tense. also the connect is missing in D . it does not appear as who delivers that line?
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Re: Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his frie [#permalink]
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And what is your answe choice? I confuse between A and D, if you choose A, can you explain to me why we eliminate D? Thanks


the answer has to be A : Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes

D is wrong because we need this sentence in the same tense. also the connect is missing in D . it does not appear as who delivers that line?

Sorry, i miscomposed an answer in my question. Would you review it? And explain again? Thx a lot
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Re: Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his frie [#permalink]
Why would it not be D ? aditya8062 I didnt understand what you meant by D requiring them to be in the same tense. As far as i can see, A as well as D are in the same tense.
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Re: Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his frie [#permalink]
D is wrong mainly because

Excepting the single line..........does not have any sense

Except FOR X Pylades remains mute. i.e. he talks during the lines in Choephori and for ALL the other lines or situation he remained mute. We need a balance

D does not communicate this

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Re: Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his frie [#permalink]
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Whats wrong with C?

C changes the meaning.

Besides- in addition to.

This does not make sense in context of sentence. We need a word that highlights a contrast.

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Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes of Apollo's command, Pylades, the companion of Orestes, remains curiously mute in all tragedies dealing with the Orestes-Electra myth.
A. Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes
B. Except for the single line delivered as a reminder to Orestes in Choephori
C. Besides his single line delivery in Choephori to remind Orestes
D. Excepting the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes
E. With the exception of the single line delivered in Choephori as a reminder to Orestes

what does "Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend ....command" modify? who is "he" and "his"? what type is the modifier?
Thanks in advance :D


The form and tense of "to deliver" needs to match "remains", which is in the last part of the sentence. To be parallel and the correct tense, "to deliver" should be "delivers". This eliminates B, C, and E. In D, "excepting" is very awkward. "Except for" in A is clearer and less wordy / more concise. A is the answer.
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Why would it not be D ? aditya8062 I didnt understand what you meant by D requiring them to be in the same tense. As far as i can see, A as well as D are in the same tense.

I think D is unidiomatic. Except for X, Y ... is preferred to the use Excepting for x, y .
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Except for the single line he delivers in Aeschylus' Choephori to remind his friend Orestes of Apollo's command, Pylades, the companion of Orestes, remains curiously mute in all tragedies dealing with the Orestes-Electra myth.

    Except for the single line he delivers in Aeschylus' Choephori to remind his friend Orestes
    Except for the single line delivered as a reminder to Orestes in Aeschylus' Choephori
    Besides his single line delivery in Aeschylus' Choephori reminding Orestes
    Excepting the single line he delivers in Aeschylus' Choephori to remind Orestes
    With the exception of the single line delivered in Aeschylus' Choephori as a reminder to Orestes

This is from one of the Kaplan Tests. Correct answer is A. But I didn't get why C and D are wrong, the explanation wasn't good enough
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Except for the single line he delivers in Aeschylus' Choephori to remind his friend Orestes of Apollo's command, Pylades, the companion of Orestes, remains curiously mute in all tragedies dealing with the Orestes-Electra myth.

    Except for the single line he delivers in Aeschylus' Choephori to remind his friend Orestes
    Except for the single line delivered as a reminder to Orestes in Aeschylus' Choephori
    Besides his single line delivery in Aeschylus' Choephori reminding Orestes
    Excepting the single line he delivers in Aeschylus' Choephori to remind Orestes
    With the exception of the single line delivered in Aeschylus' Choephori as a reminder to Orestes

This is from one of the Kaplan Tests. Correct answer is A. But I didn't get why C and D are wrong, the explanation wasn't good enough


The Q tests us on these points...
1) Besides MEANS in addition to - the sentence talks of a CONTRAST and means there was nothing other than that single line so C is out
2) With is wrongly used again to show contrast.. E is out..
3) B requires a MODIFIER correctly placed
4) A and D have one difference -usage of Except for VS excepting... Except for is the correct Idiom
The role of first clause is to show contrast, but by converting the first clause as Verb + ING modifier, the meaning and structure is changed

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Re: Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his frie [#permalink]
I see this as testing parallelism and verb tense issue. Correct answer is A.
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I selected D and I fail to understand why 'excepting' sentence changes meaning?

Thanks for your help!
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chetan2u sayantanc2k carcass

I selected D and I fail to understand why 'excepting' sentence changes meaning?

Thanks for your help!


Hi ruchi857,

There is no change in MEANING of sentence if EXCEPTING is used...

The reason except for is better than excepting-
1) Except for is more idiomiatic and is much more widely used and accepted
2) Excepting is used mainly in negative statement ... Not excepting, and its usage is very rare..
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iambillgate2@gmail.com wrote:
Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes of Apollo's command, Pylades, the companion of Orestes, remains curiously mute in all tragedies dealing with the Orestes-Electra myth.
A. Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes
B. Except for the single line delivered as a reminder to Orestes in Choephori
C. Besides his single line delivery in Choephori to remind Orestes
D. Excepting the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes
E. With the exception of the single line delivered in Choephori as a reminder to Orestes



A. Except for the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes. 'He' and 'Him' correctly modifies Pylades
B. Except for the single line delivered as a reminder to Orestes in Choephori. 'to remind' does not have same meaning as 'reminder'
C. Besides his single line delivery in Choephori to remind Orestes. 'his friend' is missing. 'single line delivery' does'nt seem idiomatic to me in this context
D. Excepting the single line he delivers in Choephori to remind his friend Orestes. Excepting is not idiomatically right
E. With the exception of the single line delivered in Choephori as a reminder to Orestes. 'to remind' does not have same meaning as 'reminder'
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Except for the single line he delivers in Aeschylus's Choephori to remind his friend Orestes of Apollo's command, Pylades, the companion of Orestes, remains curiously mute in all tragedies dealing with the Orestes-Electra myth.

    Except for the single line he delivers in Aeschylus's Choephori to remind his friend Orestes
    Except for the single line delivered as a reminder to Orestes in Aeschylus's Choephori
    Besides his single line delivery in Aeschylus's Choephori reminding Orestes
    Excepting the single line he delivers in Aeschylus's Choephori to remind Orestes
    With the exception of the single line delivered in Aeschylus's Choephori as a reminder to Orestes

The following is the OE for this question:

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Read the Original Sentence Carefully, Looking for Errors:

It's worth confirming that the underlined pronouns "he" and "his" have a clear antecedent, and they dos: "he" and "his" refer to the noun directly following the introductory phrase, "Pylades." Don't be thrown by all the Greek names in this sentence. The grammatical structure appears to be correct. Keeping in mind (A) as the correct answer, quickly review the remaining choices in case you missed a subtle error in the original.

Scan and Group the Answer Choices:

The answer choices begin with a variety of words ("Except", "Besides", "Excepting" and "With the exception"). There is no way to usefully group the choices, so move on to consider each one.

Eliminate Wrong Answer Choices:

Eliminate (B). It changes the verb "delivers" to "delivered," conflicting with the present tense "remains" in the second part of the sentence.

Eliminate (C). Because it's the "line" and not the "delivery" that causes Pylades to speak, (C) has an incorrect object for "besides."

Eliminate (D) because it changes the meaning of the original sentence. "Excepting ... command" becomes an introductory modifying phrase that must refer to the first noun following it, "Pylades." However, Pylades is not "excepting" his line—he is speaking it.

Eliminate (E). Like (B), it changes the verb "delivers" to "delivered," conflicting with the present tense "remains" in the second part of the sentence. Also "With the exception of" is a long way of saying "Except," and "as a reminder to" is a long way of saying "to remind." Such wordiness is never correct on the GMAT when a more concise and correct answer is available.

Only (A) remains, and it is the correct version of the sentence.

TAKEAWAY: Take a moment to plug your answer back into the original sentence to make sure it makes sense. Doing so can help you avoid picking an answer that is appealing in one respect but introduces an error.


My question is as follows:

1) Why is delivered (which is a past participle adjectival modifer here considered to be in past tense?) I believe participal modifers in general do not have any tenses of their own and are only modifying the noun. Please weigh in with your expert advice.

Thank you!
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