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Got D in 50s! People have already explined why it is D!
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tenaman10 wrote: Among lower-paid workers, union members are less likely than nonunion members to be enrolled in lower-end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each. (A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend (B) imposing stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending (C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend (D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending (E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending At least provide with the official answers when you post questions..whats the OA
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09 Sep 2011, 11:52
IMO E.. (D) distorts the meaning of the statement...E falls perfectly in place... Can someone post the OA??
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I picked E...it's a matter of meaning....the strict limits on the insurance is requiring doctors to see more patients in order to make the same amount of money they are used to with better insurance plans and spend less time with patients
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Here is my take: Among lower-paid workers, union members are less likely than nonunion members to be enrolled in lower-end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each.
(A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend the word "imposing" here is a participle and is modifying enrolled...it is the lower-end insurance that is imposing not the act of enrolling into lower-end insurance...."that" is required to make the insurance the proper subject (B) imposing stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending the word "imposing" here is a participle and is modifying enrolled...it is the lower-end insurance that is imposing not the act of enrolling into lower-end insurance...."that" is required to make the insurance the proper subject (C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend over here, the stricter limits require the doctors to see more patients and spend less time on each...not the insurance...C is wrong because it presents a list that is associated with "insurance"...where as in truth the first component "stricter limits" is associated with "insurance" and the later two are associated with the "stricter limits" and not the "insurance" (D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending This one half corrects the mistake in C by associating the last component "spending" with the "stricter limits"....it is useful to note the "," before "spending" that makes it a participle... (E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending E is credited, it corrects the mistakes in C and D Hope this helps...
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tenaman10 wrote: Among lower-paid workers, union members are less likely than nonunion members to be enrolled in lower-end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each. (A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend (B) imposing stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending (C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend (D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending (E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending It's a tricky one. 1. impose and require are || 2. doctor spend less time D should be the OA.
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The question is whether this sentence flaunts two equal elements or three elements in the second part. If there are three, all the three should be equated and the use of a co-ordinate conjunction is proper. However, if there are only two functions and if the other function is indeed part of the second function, then conjugating with a coordinated conjunction and is wrong. The third factor entails a sub position or a modifying role using a participle. In the given case, there is Plans imposing or that impose 1. Stricter limits and 2. (that) require doctors to see more patients. These are the only two stipulations that the plans impose. The act of spending is a corollary of seeing more patients, meaning that the doctors have to see more patients by spending less time with each patient. Therefore, all choices that use the ordinate conjunction and to conjugate spend or spending as if it is an independent function are wrong. As per this norm, only D survives and is the right answer. Plans imposing or plans that impose?. Note that there is no comma before imposing. Hence imposing is a straight-ahead, essential modification of plans and is acceptable. However, plans tht impose is more direct than imposing and hence preferable. Overall, we can see how meaning is gaining predominance over other things. Given the newfound importance to meaning, this topic promises to be a good pitch.
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OA is D. here's the explanation by ron. you have to realize which verbs are supposed to be parallel and which aren't. there's no grammatical formula for this; you have to examine the meaning of the sentence to figure it out. - 'impose' (in whatever form) should be parallel to 'require' (again, in whatever form). these are two different things, both of which are aspects of the plan (= logical parallelism). - 'spend' should not be parallel to 'see', because it functions as a modifier of 'see' (it's a descriptive adverb modifier, detailing the way in which the doctors see the patients).
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tenaman10 wrote: Among lower-paid workers, union members are less likely than nonunion members to be enrolled in lower-end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each. (A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend (B) imposing stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending (C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend (D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending (E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending Between C and D, I would go for D. I found a nice explanation for this on manhattangmat site. http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/amo ... t1904.htmlyou have to realize which verbs are supposed to be parallel and which aren't. there's no grammatical formula for this; you have to examine the meaning of the sentence to figure it out. - 'impose' (in whatever form) should be parallel to 'require' (again, in whatever form). these are two different things, both of which are aspects of the plan (= logical parallelism). - 'spend' should not be parallel to 'see', because it functions as a modifier of 'see' (it's a descriptive adverb modifier, detailing the way in which the doctors see the patients). choice a: 'spend' is ungrammatical here (it has no logical subject, and isn't parallel to anything). choice b: imposing, requiring, and spending are all parallel, implying that the insurance plans do all three of these things (an absurdity in the last case). choice c: all three verbs are parallel again, leading to the same absurdity witnessed in choice b. choice d (= correct): the parallelism follows the model outlined above: only the verbs that are logically parallel appear in parallel structure. choice e: 'requiring' and 'spending' are parallel in the modifier, implying that the plans themselves spend time with patients (in addition to requiring blah blah blah). this doesn't make sense. in choice d, you could legitimately make a case that 'spending' could modify the entire huge clause about what insurance plans do, and is therefore ambiguous. however, that's the OA, so you've learned that this problem is ok in the eyes of the gmat people. if there's a rule that can be articulated here, it's probably something along the lines of 'participial modifier applies to nearest action'.
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A good qn..... that "require" should be parallel to" impose "or to "spend.".. finally require to be parallel to impose ...spending is consequence of the earlier action..while the earlier two action should be parallel because of in dependency.
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daagh wrote: The question is whether this sentence flaunts two equal elements or three elements in the second part. If there are three, all the three should be equated and the use of a co-ordinate conjunction is proper. However, if there are only two functions and if the other function is indeed part of the second function, then conjugating with a coordinated conjunction and is wrong. The third factor entails a sub position or a modifying role using a participle.
In the given case, there is Plans imposing or that impose 1. Stricter limits and 2. (that) require doctors to see more patients. These are the only two stipulations that the plans impose. The act of spending is a corollary of seeing more patients, meaning that the doctors have to see more patients by spending less time with each patient. Therefore, all choices that use the ordinate conjunction and to conjugate spend or spending as if it is an independent function are wrong.
As per this norm, only D survives and is the right answer.
Plans imposing or plans that impose?. Note that there is no comma before imposing. Hence imposing is a straight-ahead, essential modification of plans and is acceptable. However, plans tht impose is more direct than imposing and hence preferable.
Overall, we can see how meaning is gaining predominance over other things. Given the newfound importance to meaning, this topic promises to be a good pitch. great explanation +1 Kudos for you
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daagh wrote: The question is whether this sentence flaunts two equal elements or three elements in the second part. If there are three, all the three should be equated and the use of a co-ordinate conjunction is proper. However, if there are only two functions and if the other function is indeed part of the second function, then conjugating with a coordinated conjunction and is wrong. The third factor entails a sub position or a modifying role using a participle.
In the given case, there is Plans imposing or that impose 1. Stricter limits and 2. (that) require doctors to see more patients. These are the only two stipulations that the plans impose. The act of spending is a corollary of seeing more patients, meaning that the doctors have to see more patients by spending less time with each patient. Therefore, all choices that use the ordinate conjunction and to conjugate spend or spending as if it is an independent function are wrong.
As per this norm, only D survives and is the right answer.
Plans imposing or plans that impose?. Note that there is no comma before imposing. Hence imposing is a straight-ahead, essential modification of plans and is acceptable. However, plans tht impose is more direct than imposing and hence preferable.
Overall, we can see how meaning is gaining predominance over other things. Given the newfound importance to meaning, this topic promises to be a good pitch. Hi, very neatly pitched answer. But, jus one question here, don't u think, the comma before spending is wrong, or probably modifying the whole clause, rather than doctors alone.. And if you say, that this is better of the other choices, then in that case, E also has a similar error, of "and spending" that made me rule this out. Pl throw light. Raghu
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D as doctors spend less time because they are required to see more patients.
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IMO D........
But don't you think that is required after and to maintain parallelism
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bhanushalinikhil wrote: tenaman10 wrote: Among lower-paid workers, union members are less likely than nonunion members to be enrolled in lower-end insurance plans imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend less time with each. (A) imposing stricter limits on medical services and requiring doctors to see more patients, and spend (B) imposing stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients, and spending (C) that impose stricter limits on medical services, require doctors to see more patients, and spend (D) that impose stricter limits on medical services and require doctors to see more patients, spending (E) that impose stricter limits on medical services, requiring doctors to see more patients and spending Low-end Insurance plans only impose stricter limits, however it cannot command doctor to see more patients or less. All the above tells the same except for E, which says that due to stricter limits and not due to low end insurance plans, doctors have to see more patients Similarly, it is not Insurance plans that spend less time, but its the doctor who spends less time. Hence, IMO E. I agree with you..it's not the insurance plans that require doctors to see more patients, it's the stricter limits that does..
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E is correct. Because of stricter limits on medical care doctors have to see more patients and spend less time with each of them. If someone could provide OA, it would be quite useful.
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Though I can see the logical relationship between "impose stricter limits" and "require doctors to see more patients", but the only thing that is making my head scratch is the use of ", and spending". Is it the union members who are less likely to spend less time with each other? If yes then its absolutely correct.
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