Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or : GMAT Data Sufficiency (DS)
Check GMAT Club Decision Tracker for the Latest School Decision Releases http://gmatclub.com/AppTrack

 It is currently 18 Jan 2017, 06:03

### GMAT Club Daily Prep

#### Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

# Events & Promotions

###### Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

# Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or

Author Message
TAGS:

### Hide Tags

Manager
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
Posts: 95
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 36 [0], given: 0

Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or [#permalink]

### Show Tags

25 Mar 2009, 10:07
7
This post was
BOOKMARKED
00:00

Difficulty:

75% (hard)

Question Stats:

53% (01:56) correct 47% (01:21) wrong based on 213 sessions

### HideShow timer Statistics

This topic is locked. If you want to discuss this question please re-post it in the respective forum.

Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or a director. What percent of the employees on the task force are directors?

(1) the average (arithmetic mean) salary of the managers on the task force is 5000 less than the average salary of all the employees on the task force.
(2) the average (arithmetic mean) salary of the directors on the task force is 15000 greater than the average salary of all the employees on the task force.

OPEN DISCUSSION OF THIS QUESTION IS HERE: each-employee-of-a-certain-task-force-is-either-a-manager-or-94413.html
[Reveal] Spoiler: OA
Senior Manager
Joined: 01 Mar 2009
Posts: 372
Location: PDX
Followers: 6

Kudos [?]: 89 [0], given: 24

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

25 Mar 2009, 19:30
I guess the answer is E.

m + d = t ( total no of employees )
% * whole = part

% = part/whole
= No of directors/Total no of employees = d/m+d

statement 1:

Average salary of manager is 5000 < average for all employees
Am = Total salary of manager/m
Average salary of all employees = ( Tm + Td )/m+d

So Tm/m = (Tm + Td / m+d ) - 5000 : Not sufficient

Statement 2:

Ad = Average salary of all employees + 15000
Td/d = Tm + Td / m+d + 15000 - Not sufficient

Combining:
Tm/m + 5000 = Td/d - 150000

we need d/m+d - So not sufficient.
_________________

In the land of the night, the chariot of the sun is drawn by the grateful dead

Current Student
Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Posts: 3384
Location: New York City
Schools: Wharton'11 HBS'12
Followers: 15

Kudos [?]: 282 [0], given: 2

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

26 Mar 2009, 07:53
it is a weighted average type problem, we know that Director income is 15000 more than the avg and we know that manager income is 5000 less than the avg..

so if you look at it, the avg is closer to the manager salary than it is to the director salary clearly there are more managers than directors!
Senior Manager
Joined: 01 Mar 2009
Posts: 372
Location: PDX
Followers: 6

Kudos [?]: 89 [0], given: 24

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

26 Mar 2009, 08:43
FN wrote:
it is a weighted average type problem, we know that Director income is 15000 more than the avg and we know that manager income is 5000 less than the avg..

so if you look at it, the avg is closer to the manager salary than it is to the director salary clearly there are more managers than directors!

Well that still doesn't give the percentage of directors in the group. I'm still not convinced. Sure there are more managers than directors - but to find the percentage of directors, won't we need the number of directors ? I may be missing something very basic here. Any help will be appreciated.

_________________

In the land of the night, the chariot of the sun is drawn by the grateful dead

Intern
Joined: 07 Oct 2008
Posts: 12
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 3 [3] , given: 0

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

27 Mar 2009, 05:43
3
KUDOS
I tried this way and agree that A & B are not the answers...

Total avg of Manager and Director = x

For Managers ,
Salary Avg = m = (x-5000)
Managers Count = M

For Directors ,
Salary Avg = d = (x+15000)
Directors Count = D

We have a clue in stmt that they are talking abt averages so lets substitute in the formula

Avg (x) = {M(x-5000) + D(x+15000) } / (M+D)
After solving the above eqn you will get a relationship between M and D and it is
M/D =1/3 and hence the answer is C.

Let me know what you think?
Senior Manager
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
Posts: 359
Concentration: Technology, Marketing
GMAT 1: 700 Q50 V34
GPA: 3
WE: Sales (Telecommunications)
Followers: 4

Kudos [?]: 199 [0], given: 16

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

27 Mar 2009, 07:17
Could you please solve the equation to get M/D = 1/3?
Nice explanation so far , thanks a lot.
_________________

Lahoosaher

SVP
Joined: 29 Aug 2007
Posts: 2492
Followers: 67

Kudos [?]: 734 [4] , given: 19

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

27 Mar 2009, 12:07
4
KUDOS
Accountant wrote:
Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or a director. What percentage of the employees are directors:

1) Average salary for manager is $5,000 less than average of all employees. 2) Average salary of directors is$15,000 greater than average salary of all employees

Suppose: no. of managers = m
managers' avg. salary = s1
no. of directors = d
directors avg salary = s2

From st 1:
s1 + 5000 = (s1 m + s2 d) / (m+d)
s1 (m+d) + 5000 (m+d) = (s1 m + s2 d)
s1 m + s1 d + 5000m + 5000d = s1 m + s2 d
s1 d + 5000m + 5000d = s2 d
s2 d - s1 d = 5000 (m + d)
d (s2 - s1) = 5000 (m + d)
s2 - s1 = 5000 (m + d)/d

From st 2:
s2 - 15000 = (s1 m + s2 d) / (m+d)
s2 - s1 = 15000 (m+d)/m

From 1 and 2: 5000 (m+d)/d = 15000 (m+d)/m
m = 3d
d/(m+d) = d/(3d+d) = 1/4

So C is correct.
_________________

Gmat: http://gmatclub.com/forum/everything-you-need-to-prepare-for-the-gmat-revised-77983.html

GT

Senior Manager
Joined: 30 Nov 2008
Posts: 490
Schools: Fuqua
Followers: 10

Kudos [?]: 277 [0], given: 15

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

27 Mar 2009, 15:22
Here is another way of solving it.

Thum rule: -

part / whole = % / 100

Let m = no of managers and M be the avg salaray of a manager
d = no of directors and D be the avg salary of the director.
T be the avg salary of the total group.

We can say that Mm + Dd = T(m + d) ----> Eq 1

Question asked is what is the Percentage of directors ie (d / (m+d)) = ?

For simplicity lets consider 5 and 15 instead of 5000 or 15000.

From stmt1, avg salary of managers is 5 less than total avg

==> Mm = (T-5)m. ---> Eq 2. We don't know any thing abt d or D. Cannot simplfy this further to find out what is d / (m+d). Hence Insufficient.

From stmt2, avg salary of directors is 15 more than total avg

==> Dd = Td + 15d. --> Eq 3. We don't know anything abt M or m. Cannot simplfy this further to find out what is d / (m+d). Hence Insufficient.

Combine stmt 1 and 2 for Mm and Dd in Eq 1, we get,

Tm - 5m + Td + 15d = Tm + Td.
==> 3d = m.

Now we can solve for d / (m+d) which is d / 4d = 1/4. Hence sufficient.

IMO C.
Director
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
Posts: 877
Followers: 9

Kudos [?]: 362 [0], given: 7

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

05 Apr 2009, 06:40
Accountant wrote:
Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or a director. What percentage of the employees are directors:

1) Average salary for manager is $5,000 less than average of all employees. 2) Average salary of directors is$15,000 greater than average salary of all employees

This question is testing weighted average.
D - % of Directors
M- % of Managers
D+M=1
D?
____________
Let "a" be total average
Stmt1. a-5k=m (i.e. average salary for manager)

Stmt2. a+15k=d (i.e. average salary for director)

None is suff by itself.

Stmt 1 &2.
Formula for weighted average: M*m+D*d=a
M(a-5k)+D(a+15k)=a
Ma-M5k+Da+D15k=a
a(M+D)+D15k-M5k=a
As M+D=1, we are left with D15k-M5k=0
Also, M=1-D => D15k-5k+D5k=0
D=1/4 or 25%

Hence C.
Senior Manager
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Posts: 329
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 149 [0], given: 5

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

07 May 2009, 22:43
Yes this probelm is a bit time consuming. I liked GMAT tigers equation approach. It was more understandable to me.

Have seen this problem in some other forum some time back and i remember they put the below explaination. It will be good if someone can expalin. Just wanted to share with u all.

Concept of weighted averages

5000-------- Av ------------------150000

salarys are the ratio M/D = 5000 / 15000 = 1/3

the number of mangers and directors will be in the inverse ratio M / D = 3/1 .
Manager
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Posts: 203
Location: India
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 27 [4] , given: 4

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

08 May 2009, 00:32
4
KUDOS
Solving this ques. by equations will take a lot of time.

Alternative approach.

Manager manager manager............x managers ................Average..............director director director.....y director
instaed of 5000 and 15000 lets deal with 5 and 15.

So managers are trying to bring down the average and directors are trying to bring up the average. however the average is fixed.

1 director can raise the average by 15 so to nullify it we need 3managers. so total employees = 4.Hence ratio of
manager to director = 1/4.

Hope that helps.
Senior Manager
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 303
Followers: 6

Kudos [?]: 134 [1] , given: 15

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

16 Jul 2009, 10:56
1
KUDOS
1
This post was
BOOKMARKED
tkarthi4u wrote:
Yes this probelm is a bit time consuming. I liked GMAT tigers equation approach. It was more understandable to me.

Have seen this problem in some other forum some time back and i remember they put the below explaination. It will be good if someone can expalin. Just wanted to share with u all.

Concept of weighted averages

5000-------- Av ------------------150000

salarys are the ratio M/D = 5000 / 15000 = 1/3

the number of mangers and directors will be in the inverse ratio M / D = 3/1 .

This is the best approach I've ever seen for averages. I might never have figured this out myself had i not seen this.

Actually the above diagram can be better represented as

Avg M-----(5000)-----Avg Tot-----------------(15000)--------------Avg D

ie, Avg of managers is at distance of 5000 from total avg, and avg of directors is at a distance for 15000 from tot avg.

Now concept of weighted avg is that The total avg will be most affected by the heaviest weight, ie, more the number of managers, closer will be tot avg to their avg salary, more the number of directors, closer will be the tot avg to their avg.

Now Avg tot is most affected by avg M, that means managers are more.
How many more relative to directors?

Avg D is 3 times as far from tot avg as is Avg M.

that implies that weight of AvgM is 3 times greater than weight of AvgD.
weight here is nothing but number of managers.

I hope i could explain it
SVP
Joined: 29 Aug 2007
Posts: 2492
Followers: 67

Kudos [?]: 734 [1] , given: 19

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

18 Aug 2009, 18:23
1
KUDOS
Using pen and paper, it takes arround 2-3 minuets.

btw....How much time will it take to answer the question?????

GMAT TIGER wrote:
Accountant wrote:
Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or a director. What percentage of the employees are directors:

1) Average salary for manager is $5,000 less than average of all employees. 2) Average salary of directors is$15,000 greater than average salary of all employees

Suppose: no. of managers = m
managers' avg. salary = s1
no. of directors = d
directors avg salary = s2

From st 1:
s1 + 5000 = (s1 m + s2 d) / (m+d)
s1 (m+d) + 5000 (m+d) = (s1 m + s2 d)
s1 m + s1 d + 5000m + 5000d = s1 m + s2 d
s1 d + 5000m + 5000d = s2 d
s2 d - s1 d = 5000 (m + d)
d (s2 - s1) = 5000 (m + d)
s2 - s1 = 5000 (m + d)/d

From st 2:
s2 - 15000 = (s1 m + s2 d) / (m+d)
s2 - s1 = 15000 (m+d)/m

From 1 and 2: 5000 (m+d)/d = 15000 (m+d)/m
m = 3d
d/(m+d) = d/(3d+d) = 1/4

So C is correct.

_________________

Gmat: http://gmatclub.com/forum/everything-you-need-to-prepare-for-the-gmat-revised-77983.html

GT

Intern
Joined: 10 Dec 2009
Posts: 1
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 7 [5] , given: 0

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

09 Jan 2010, 02:06
5
KUDOS
2
This post was
BOOKMARKED
since the distance from the average should sum to zero, then the distance from the total average of one group plus the distance from the average of the second group should be equal to zero! So, a quick formula would be:
(-5000)x(number of managers) + (15000)(number of directors) = 0
So: number of managers/number of directors = 15000/5000 = 3/1

Out of the total number, the managers would be 3 times the number of directors.

so, D = 1/4 of total
and M = 3/4 of total

Hope that helps
Manager
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
Posts: 84
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 12 [0], given: 11

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

29 May 2011, 19:26
as this is DS problem and understanding the problem's concept and what is solution for this is important though, it does not need actual solution. As above mentioned in various post, weight average concept should yield percentage of director as relation 1) between manager Avg and total avg is available
2) between director avg and total avg is available
VP
Status: There is always something new !!
Affiliations: PMI,QAI Global,eXampleCG
Joined: 08 May 2009
Posts: 1353
Followers: 17

Kudos [?]: 240 [0], given: 10

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

06 Jun 2011, 02:11
using allegation

15000/5000 = 3/1.

C it is.
_________________

Visit -- http://www.sustainable-sphere.com/
Promote Green Business,Sustainable Living and Green Earth !!

Manager
Joined: 20 Jul 2011
Posts: 152
GMAT Date: 10-21-2011
Followers: 3

Kudos [?]: 68 [1] , given: 15

Re: DS Ratio question GMAT prep [#permalink]

### Show Tags

05 Sep 2011, 10:25
1
KUDOS
Quote:
Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or a director. What percentage of the employees are directors:

1) Average salary for manager is $5,000 less than average of all employees. 2) Average salary of directors is$15,000 greater than average salary of all employees

[Reveal] Spoiler:
C

This is my approach...

Statement 1

Let average of all employees be x.
Avg salary for manager: x - 5000
Insufficient.

Statement 2
Avg salary of directors (D): x + 15000
Insufficient.

Statement 1 + 2

$$\frac{M(x-5000)+D(x+15000)}{M+D}= x$$

$$\frac{Mx-5000M+Dx+15000D}{M+D} = x$$

$$\frac{x(M+D)+15000D-5000M}{M+D} = x$$

$$\frac{15000D-5000M}{M+D}=0$$

$$5000(3D-M)=0$$

$$3D=M$$ (from here you can actually derive the required percentage)

Sufficient!

The below by karimsafi is a really quick method though! +1 Kudos!
Quote:
Concept of weighted averages

(-5000)............x............................(+15000)
M-------- Average ------------------D

since the distance from the average should sum to zero, then the distance from the total average of one group plus the distance from the average of the second group should be equal to zero! So, a quick formula would be:
(-5000)x(number of managers) + (15000)(number of directors) = 0
So: number of managers/number of directors = 15000/5000 = 3/1

Out of the total number, the managers would be 3 times the number of directors.

so, D = 1/4 of total
and M = 3/4 of total

_________________

"The best day of your life is the one on which you decide your life is your own. No apologies or excuses. No one to lean on, rely on, or blame. The gift is yours - it is an amazing journey - and you alone are responsible for the quality of it. This is the day your life really begins." - Bob Moawab

GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 09 Sep 2013
Posts: 13436
Followers: 575

Kudos [?]: 163 [0], given: 0

Re: Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or [#permalink]

### Show Tags

31 Oct 2013, 21:19
Hello from the GMAT Club BumpBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
_________________
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 36545
Followers: 7075

Kudos [?]: 93078 [0], given: 10542

Re: Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or [#permalink]

### Show Tags

01 Nov 2013, 00:15
OPEN DISCUSSION OF THIS QUESTION IS HERE: each-employee-of-a-certain-task-force-is-either-a-manager-or-94413.html
_________________
Re: Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or   [#permalink] 01 Nov 2013, 00:15
Similar topics Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
1 In a work force, the employees are either managers or directors. What 2 16 Aug 2015, 22:33
158 Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or 36 18 May 2010, 07:01
Each employee of Company Z is an employee of either Division 7 31 Aug 2008, 10:58
139 Each employee of Company Z is an employee of either division 33 17 Oct 2007, 18:29
Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or 2 08 Apr 2007, 08:45
Display posts from previous: Sort by