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after reporting verb 'that' is required. So not sure whether the answer makes sense..
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crackgmat13 wrote:
after reporting verb 'that' is required. So not sure whether the answer makes sense..


Hi crackgmat13
Welcome to Gmatclub!

You're right, after reporting verb, that is required. But, "indicate" is not reporting verb. You may think "indicate that" is correct, because you see this idiom more often. However, after verbs such as say, tell, think, believe, indicate, etc..."that" is OPTIONAL.

For example: the high fever indicates a serious problem.

Hope it helps.
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Isotopes in the recently excavated bones of a 14-year-old girl from the Jamestown archaeological site indicate
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she had eaten a high-protein diet, so was probably the daughter of a gentleman, not a maidservant.


A) She had eaten a high-protein diet, so was probably the daughter of a gentleman, not a maidservant.
B) that she ate a high protein diet, so probably had been the daughter of a gentleman, and not a maidservant.
C) that she had eaten a high protein diet, so was probably the daughter of a gentleman, and not a maidservant’s.
D) she ate a high-protein diet, so was probably the daughter of a gentleman, and had not been a maidservant.
E) she had eaten a high-protein diet, thereby had probably been the daughter of a gentleman, not a maidservant’s


This question raises many an eyebrow.

First: the original text looks more like a fused sentence rather than a formal one.
To wit:
IC 1. Isotopes in the recently excavated bones of a 14-year-old girl from the Jamestown archaeological site indicate
IC 2. She had eaten a high-protein diet, so was probably the daughter of a man, not a maidservant.

The all-important conjunction 'that' in the text is missing. This may be okay in a conversation but not in the rigid GMAT SC.
Second: Whenever you compare two identities, you must compare two, structurally and more importantly, logically parallel ones. The comparison between a fourteen-year-old daughter of a man and a maidservant is not convincing. (Did they allow 14 -year olds as a maidservant in those days?)
The rational comparison should have been between the well-fed daughter of a man and a poorly- fed daughter of a maidservant.

Third: Gentlemanliness may be attributive to courteous behavior, but is it also correlated to rich diet?

Originally posted by daagh on 17 Jun 2018, 09:31.
Last edited by daagh on 18 Jun 2018, 21:30, edited 1 time in total.
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1. "she had eaten a high-protein diet" - doesn't it convey meaning that she might have eaten high protein food once and she might not be regular consumer of high protein diet.

2. Whereas "she ate a high protein diet" implies that she used to eat high protein diet habitually.


then How is A correct answer?
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Isotopes in her bones indicate that she had eaten a high-protein diet, so she was probably not a maidservant but the daughter of a gentleman.
nytimes article : https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/02/scie ... -site.html
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Can somebody explain why B is incorrect?
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Unclear why this question dropped the 'not x but y' structure of the original sentence in the NYT article. I'm just not sure about this one. Some of the tense issues are strange.

"She had eaten a high-protein diet" implies there was a point in the past where this stopped, but that doesn't seem to be the story here. Similarly, she 'had been' the daughter of a gentleman... When did she stop that? But then--the original sentence uses this tense. It still doesn't sit quite right with me though.

(Agree that 'and not a maidservant' is wrong for conjunction purposes).
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crackgmat13 wrote:
after reporting verb 'that' is required. So not sure whether the answer makes sense..


Hi crackgmat13
Welcome to Gmatclub!

You're right, after reporting verb, that is required. But, "indicate" is not reporting verb. You may think "indicate that" is correct, because you see this idiom more often. However, after verbs such as say, tell, think, believe, indicate, etc..."that" is OPTIONAL.

For example: the high fever indicates a serious problem.

Hope it helps.

To build on, I think "that" is required for the above quoted verbs if the same follows another complete clause as in the original question.

In the quoted example, "a serious problem" is not a complete clause and so "that" is not required after "indicates".
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