Last visit was: 26 Apr 2024, 21:22 It is currently 26 Apr 2024, 21:22

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
SORT BY:
Date
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 31 Oct 2012
Status:Impossible is just an opinion
Posts: 40
Own Kudos [?]: 558 [57]
Given Kudos: 18
Location: Ukraine
Concentration: Strategy, Marketing
GMAT 1: 590 Q47 V24
GMAT 2: 650 Q47 V34
GMAT 3: 670 Q49 V31
GMAT 4: 690 Q48 V37
GPA: 3.8
WE:Marketing (Consumer Products)
Send PM
Most Helpful Reply
User avatar
VP
VP
Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 1005
Own Kudos [?]: 3120 [19]
Given Kudos: 116
Location: India
Concentration: Strategy
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V42
GPA: 3.8
WE:Engineering (Energy and Utilities)
Send PM
avatar
SVP
SVP
Joined: 27 Dec 2012
Status:The Best Or Nothing
Posts: 1562
Own Kudos [?]: 7208 [7]
Given Kudos: 193
Location: India
Concentration: General Management, Technology
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Send PM
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 12 Sep 2015
Posts: 6818
Own Kudos [?]: 29942 [4]
Given Kudos: 799
Location: Canada
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
3
Kudos
1
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
Top Contributor
MDK wrote:
If \(\frac{30!}{10!}\) is written as the product of consecutive integers, the largest of which is 30, what is the smallest of the integers?

A. 1
B. 3
C. 7
D. 11
E. 20


\(\frac{30!}{10!} = \frac{(30)(29)(28)(27)(26). . . . . (13)(12)(11)(10)(9)(8)(7)(6)(5)(4)(3)(2)(1)}{(10)(9)(8)(7)(6)(5)(4)(3)(2)(1)}\)

\( = (30)(29)(28)(27)(26). . . . . (13)(12)(11)\)

Smallest consecutive integer is 11

Answer: D
General Discussion
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 31 Oct 2012
Status:Impossible is just an opinion
Posts: 40
Own Kudos [?]: 558 [1]
Given Kudos: 18
Location: Ukraine
Concentration: Strategy, Marketing
GMAT 1: 590 Q47 V24
GMAT 2: 650 Q47 V34
GMAT 3: 670 Q49 V31
GMAT 4: 690 Q48 V37
GPA: 3.8
WE:Marketing (Consumer Products)
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
1
Kudos
lucbesson wrote:
If \(30!/10!\) is witten as the product of consequtive integers, the largest of which is 30, what is the smallest of the integers?


Once you see the answer, the logic becames clear.
But can anyone suggest how to deal with such kind of problems?

THX!
avatar
Current Student
Joined: 31 Oct 2012
Status:Impossible is just an opinion
Posts: 40
Own Kudos [?]: 558 [0]
Given Kudos: 18
Location: Ukraine
Concentration: Strategy, Marketing
GMAT 1: 590 Q47 V24
GMAT 2: 650 Q47 V34
GMAT 3: 670 Q49 V31
GMAT 4: 690 Q48 V37
GPA: 3.8
WE:Marketing (Consumer Products)
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
MacFauz wrote:
Quite straight forward actually. The answer is 11.
30! = 1*2*3......*29*30
10! = 1*2*3......*9*10

So, 1 to 10 gets cancelled out and the remaining series begins with 11. (1 cannot be considered since the series has to be consecutive integers)


Yeahhh, you are 100% right! :roll:

I accidentally thought that the fraction transforms to 20*21*...*30, so I was looking for some very complicated method to extract 11 from 22 and make another very smart sequence :)) Probably I was too tired :cry:

But thanks anyway!!! :lol:
avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 01 Oct 2014
Posts: 2
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 10
Send PM
If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
MacFauz wrote:
Quite straight forward actually. The answer is 11.
30! = 1*2*3......*29*30
10! = 1*2*3......*9*10

So, 1 to 10 gets cancelled out and the remaining series begins with 11. (1 cannot be considered since the series has to be consecutive integers)


Hi,

Just did the GMAT test prep and this question popped up.
Basically, my first answer was the good one, 11, but after double checking, the smallest of the integers, after simplifying the 30*29*28*...*11, is actually 1, because 1*30*29*28... It is possible to breakdown any of the numbers and multiplying them by one.
So I went for 1.
Anyone could tell me from the question, how could I have decided between 11 and 1?
My understanding is that the question specifies "the product of consecutive integer" only to explain what means 30!

Thanks a lot.
User avatar
VP
VP
Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 1005
Own Kudos [?]: 3120 [1]
Given Kudos: 116
Location: India
Concentration: Strategy
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V42
GPA: 3.8
WE:Engineering (Energy and Utilities)
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
1
Bookmarks
Hi tsunagaru,

You are right that multiplying the sequence by 1 would still give the same answer. However, including 1 in the sequence would mean that the sequence is not a sequence of consecutive integers any more.

As you have mentioned, the sequence would then become 1*11*12*13.....29*30

As you can see this would not be a valid sequence.
tsunagaru wrote:
MacFauz wrote:
Quite straight forward actually. The answer is 11.
30! = 1*2*3......*29*30
10! = 1*2*3......*9*10

So, 1 to 10 gets cancelled out and the remaining series begins with 11. (1 cannot be considered since the series has to be consecutive integers)


Hi,

Just did the GMAT test prep and this question popped up.
Basically, my first answer was the good one, 11, but after double checking, the smallest of the integers, after simplifying the 30*29*28*...*11, is actually 1, because 1*30*29*28... It is possible to breakdown any of the numbers and multiplying them by one.
So I went for 1.
Anyone could tell me from the question, how could I have decided between 11 and 1?
My understanding is that the question specifies "the product of consecutive integer" only to explain what means 30!

Thanks a lot.
Board of Directors
Joined: 11 Jun 2011
Status:QA & VA Forum Moderator
Posts: 6072
Own Kudos [?]: 4690 [0]
Given Kudos: 463
Location: India
GPA: 3.5
WE:Business Development (Commercial Banking)
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
MDK wrote:
If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the largest of which is 30, what is the smallest of the integers?

A. 1
B. 3
C. 7
D. 11
E. 20


30!/10!

\(= \frac{30*29*28...........13*12*11*10!}{10!}\)

Thus we are left with : 30*29*28...........13*12*11

The largest number here is 30 and thus the smallest number will be 11, answer will be (D) 11
Target Test Prep Representative
Joined: 14 Oct 2015
Status:Founder & CEO
Affiliations: Target Test Prep
Posts: 18767
Own Kudos [?]: 22065 [0]
Given Kudos: 283
Location: United States (CA)
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
Expert Reply
MDK wrote:
If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the largest of which is 30, what is the smallest of the integers?

A. 1
B. 3
C. 7
D. 11
E. 20


We can simplify 30!/10! to 30 x 29 x 28 x 27 x … x 13 x 12 x 11. Thus, the smallest integer is 11.

Answer: D
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11669 [1]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
1
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
Hi All,

When a prompt provides you with a 'complex-looking' calculation, it can often help to come up with a much simpler example of the math involved. Here, we're asked to consider 30!/10! - and that might look 'scary' at first glance.

Instead of starting with that example, consider the following - what would 5!/3! look like...?

(5)(4)(3)(2)(1) / (3)(2)(1) = 120/6 = 20

You probably already know that when you simplify a fraction, you divide "top" and "bottom" by the same number, so we can 'cancel out' the 3, 2 and 1 from both the numerator and the denominator. This leaves us with...

(5)(4)/1 = 20

That wasn't too difficult, so now we can apply the same logic to 30!/10!... All of the numbers (10), (9)....(2) and (1) will cancel out, leaving us with...

(30)(29)....(12)(11)/1

Final Answer:

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Director
Director
Joined: 02 Sep 2016
Posts: 528
Own Kudos [?]: 194 [0]
Given Kudos: 275
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
30!= 1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10*11*....................*30

10!=1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10

Therefore 30!/10!= 11*12*............30 (as all common terms i.e. 10! cancel out).
Thus the smallest integer is 11.
Intern
Intern
Joined: 05 Dec 2017
Posts: 17
Own Kudos [?]: 36 [1]
Given Kudos: 32
GMAT 1: 710 Q49 V38
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Bunuel wrote:
dmmk wrote:
Bunuel or WoundedTiger

I have tagged this question as I faced it in the GMAT Prep Exam pack 1, however, the original post is missing the answer choices, Can you please edit the original post to include the answer choices as follows?

A) 1
B) 3
C) 7
D) 11
E) 20

Thanks!
DmmK


Done. Thank you very much!



Hi Bunuel

Can you explain to me why the answer is not 1 please?

I was going to choose 11 at first and I get the logic of it as well ; however, I then thought that the smallest integer would always remain to be 1, as anything multiplied by 1 is the number itself. Where is my understanding of the question going wrong?
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11669 [1]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Expert Reply
Hi sssjav,

On Test Day, the GMAT questions that you will face will all be specifically written, so you have to pay careful attention to the details in each prompt. Here, we're told that 30!/10! is to be written as the product of CONSECUTIVE integers and we're asked for the SMALLEST number in that 'string' of integers.

If you're comfortable "reducing" the fraction, then you know the result will be:

(30)(29)....(12)(11)/1

Remember that we're looking for the smallest integer in the CONSECUTIVE string of those integers. We have to 'work down' from 30...29....28... etc. The number '1' is not included because the numbers 2, 3, 4,....8, 9 and 10 are NOT in that string.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

Originally posted by EMPOWERgmatRichC on 04 Sep 2018, 12:58.
Last edited by EMPOWERgmatRichC on 04 Sep 2018, 13:10, edited 1 time in total.
Manager
Manager
Joined: 03 Feb 2020
Posts: 120
Own Kudos [?]: 288 [0]
Given Kudos: 242
Location: Korea, Republic of
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
This question confused me cuz it's too easy.. I spent unnecessary extra time to think that there might be a trap...
Math Revolution GMAT Instructor
Joined: 16 Aug 2015
Posts: 10161
Own Kudos [?]: 16600 [0]
Given Kudos: 4
GMAT 1: 760 Q51 V42
GPA: 3.82
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
Expert Reply
30!= 30 * 29 * 28 ...... *13*12*11*10*9.........3*2*1

10! = 10*9.........3*2*1

\(\frac{30! }{ 10!}\) = \(\frac{30 * 29 * 28 ...... *13*12*11*10*9.........3*2*1}{ 10*9.........3*2*1}\)

=> 30*29*28......*13*12*11


=> Smallest integer : 11

Answer D
Manager
Manager
Joined: 02 Jan 2017
Posts: 50
Own Kudos [?]: 51 [1]
Given Kudos: 51
Concentration: Strategy, Entrepreneurship
GMAT 1: 690 Q47 V38
GMAT 2: 710 Q48 V40
GMAT 3: 730 Q50 V40
GPA: 3.89
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Bunuel, looks like this Q misses the Gmatprep tag, please add. Thanks!
Attachments

GMAT Prep 4.JPG
GMAT Prep 4.JPG [ 55.72 KiB | Viewed 21017 times ]

Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 92948
Own Kudos [?]: 619262 [0]
Given Kudos: 81609
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
Expert Reply
nhatanh811 wrote:
Bunuel, looks like this Q misses the Gmatprep tag, please add. Thanks!


_____________________
Added the tag. Thank you.
User avatar
Non-Human User
Joined: 09 Sep 2013
Posts: 32691
Own Kudos [?]: 822 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
Hello from the GMAT Club BumpBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
GMAT Club Bot
Re: If 30!/10! is written as the product of consecutive integers, the larg [#permalink]
Moderators:
Math Expert
92948 posts
Senior Moderator - Masters Forum
3137 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne