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idinuv wrote:
OA is E

D talks about other community colleges, not Lakemore and its plan.

E. indicates that already-superior facilities have not lured more students to Lakemore, so it casts doubt on the likelihood that further improved facilities will increase enrollment.


I HAD THE FOLLOWING LOGIC................

E. THOUGH LAKEMORE HAD BETTER FACILITIES SO FAR, BUT IT IS NOW ENHANCING THESE AND ALSO INCLUDING NEW PROFESSORS IN THE COLLEGE, WHICH COULD BE THE KEY FACTOR IN ATTRACTING MORE STUDENTS...CAN WE RULE OUT THE NEW PROFESSORS ANGLE..

D. GIVES AN ALTERNATE REASON FOR ATTRACTING MORE STUDENTS.....IF LAKEMORE DID'NT ENSURE REMEDIAL MEASURES ENSURING TIMELY COMPLETION OF ITS PROGRAMMES , IT WONT BE ABLE TO ATTRACT MORE STUDENTS DESPITE BETTER FACILITIES...... IN THE MEANWHILE STUDENTS WILL FALL FOR OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES....
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The proportion of students attending community colleges has increased dramatically in the past two years. Lakemore Community College, hoping to attract some of these students, has decided to build a larger parking lot and hire several new professors, while maintaining its already excellent communication with local high school college counselors.

Which of the following, if true, provides the strongest evidence in support of the contention that Lakemore's plan to increase its enrollment is flawed?

1) Although Lakemore has recently expanded its program to include fine arts and computer science, the percentage of community college students who choose to enroll at Lakemore has decreased over the last two years.

2)Students who were graduated from Lakemore in the past two years have had trouble finding jobs.

3)The relationship between Lakemore and local high school counselors has been responsible for the decision of many students to attend Lakemore.

4)Other community colleges in the area have better developed remedial programs to help students graduate on time.

5)Despite having better facilities than other community colleges in the area, Lakemore has had declines in enrollment in the past two years.


Hi,

This is my process:

1) Although Lakemore has recently expanded its program to include fine arts and computer science, the percentage of community college students who choose to enroll at Lakemore has decreased over the last two years. OUT of scope

2)Students who were graduated from Lakemore in the past two years have had trouble finding jobs. - Yes, but all the students went to Harvard Business MBA.. OUT

3)The relationship between Lakemore and local high school counselors has been responsible for the decision of many students to attend Lakemore. OUT of scope

4)Other community colleges in the area have better developed remedial programs to help students graduate on time. OUT of scope

5)Despite having better facilities than other community colleges in the area, Lakemore has had declines in enrollment in the past two years CORRECT


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Re: The proportion of students attending community colleges has [#permalink]
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OA is E

D talks about other community colleges, not Lakemore and its plan.

E. indicates that already-superior facilities have not lured more students to Lakemore, so it casts doubt on the likelihood that further improved facilities will increase enrollment.


I went with B but I see why B is wrong. E seems to be missing an important point. My doubt is similar to semwal's. E only considers better facilities, how about new professors? How can we ignore this? Are new professors considered "facility"?
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Re: The proportion of students attending community colleges has [#permalink]
question stem is about strengthening the contention that plan of Lakemore Community is flawed.

Plan include three things:
1. Build a larger parking lot
2.Hire several new professors
3. maintaining its already excellent communication with local high school college counselors.

option E says, despite having better facilities than other community colleges in the area, Lakemore has had declines in enrollment in the past two years. - Though it tells about the current facilities, It does not address the flaw in the future plan and how the future plan will not meet the desired outcome. Moreover, If the current facilities has caused a decline in enrollment that does not mean that the future plan( facilities) will also produce the same result.

Option C tells about a problem, which Lakemore forgot to address and which could affect the enrollments.

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Re: The proportion of students attending community colleges has [#permalink]
I don't agree with OA. IMO it should be D.

"2.Hire several new professors"

May be new professors have better academic credentials. The Lakemore had professors, but now they are improving the quality of the professors. That might have an impact on the enrollments. Option E) Despite having better facilities than other colleges, the enrollments are declining. So with the other changes, the college might increase the enrollments.

If the premise says , they already have the best profs, I guess then Option E) can be the correct answer.
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Re: The proportion of students attending community colleges has [#permalink]
Clearly (E) if one considers this problem from a mathematical angle...

The stimulus claims

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The proportion of students attending community colleges has increased ....


\(Required \ Proportion\)= \(\frac{Students \ attending \ community \ Colleges}{Students \ attending \ Colleges \ ( \ Community \ + \ Non \ Community \ )}\)

Let us take example of 2 Years -

In Year 1

Students attending community Colleges = 100
Students attending Colleges = 200 ( Students attending community Colleges = Students attending Colleges = 100)

Proportion is 0.50

In Year 2

Students attending community Colleges = 80
Students attending Colleges = 170 ( Students attending community Colleges = 80 &Students attending Colleges = 90)

Proportion is ~ 0.53

See , here clearly the number of students have declined from 100 to 80 ; there is a significant increase in proportion of students attending community colleges ( from 0.50 to 0.53 )

So Lakemore's plan to increase its enrollment is flawed...

Answer will be (E)
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Re: The proportion of students attending community colleges has [#permalink]
IMO the answer should be D.

'E' talks about declining enrollments in the past. But, that cannot imply that the current plan will fail as well.

Can someone please post the OE.
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IMO the answer should be D.

'E' talks about declining enrollments in the past. But, that cannot imply that the current plan will fail as well.

Can someone please post the OE.


Hi,
D talks of remedial programs of other colleges BUT we are talking of the plan's being talked about..
so D is OUT of context..

We have to find the BEST in the given choices and E is ofcourse the BEST in whatever choices are available..
If the SAME plans have earlier not helped the college, it is a possiblity that they will still fail..
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Ankit73 wrote:
IMO the answer should be D.

'E' talks about declining enrollments in the past. But, that cannot imply that the current plan will fail as well.

Can someone please post the OE.


Hi,
D talks of remedial programs of other colleges BUT we are talking of the plan's being talked about..
so D is OUT of context..

We have to find the BEST in the given choices and E is ofcourse the BEST in whatever choices are available..
If the SAME plans have earlier not helped the college, it is a possiblity that they will still fail..



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idinuv wrote:
The proportion of students attending community colleges has increased dramatically in the past two years. Lakemore Community College, hoping to attract some of these students, has decided to build a larger parking lot and hire several new professors, while maintaining its already excellent communication with local high school college counselors.

Which of the following, if true, provides the strongest evidence in support of the contention that Lakemore's plan to increase its enrollment is flawed? => WEAKEN question

1) Although Lakemore has recently expanded its program to include fine arts and computer science, the percentage of community college students who choose to enroll at Lakemore has decreased over the last two years.
Stimuli doesn't mention anything about Lakemore program as a factor to increase enrollment => fine arts and computer science programs are irrelevant => WRONG

2)Students who were graduated from Lakemore in the past two years have had trouble finding jobs.
same as above, irrelevant => WRONG

3)The relationship between Lakemore and local high school counselors has been responsible for the decision of many students to attend Lakemore.
This strengthens the argument since the argument mentioned Lakemore maintains communication with counselors => WRONG

4)Other community colleges in the area have better developed remedial programs to help students graduate on time.
Irrelevant. Student placement/outcome is not discussed in the argument. => WRONG

5)Despite having better facilities than other community colleges in the area, Lakemore has had declines in enrollment in the past two years.
This attacks the school's decision to improve its parking area. In the past, its facilities were not effective in increasing the school's enrollment => CORRECT


Could you please revisit why option C strengthens the argument? the argument mentions it will maintain comm with counselors. So there is no enhancement as such in the comm process with counselors. The only variables college is changing are Parking lot and new professors.
According to opt C, only relationship betn lakemore and counselors is responsible for students attending the college. But as there is no change or improvement in communication/relationship, there will not be any increase in enrollment as well.
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Re: The proportion of students attending community colleges has [#permalink]
To me it is a cause and effect question.
cause : Better facilities
effect : Increase in enrollment

option E say Cause is present but Effect is absent, therefore the above Cause & Effect relationship is flawed.

Ans. E
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Re: The proportion of students attending community colleges has [#permalink]
How is C wrong?
If the reason for enrollment is the relationship between Lakemore and the counselors, then how would providing additional facilities cause an increase in the enrollment?

Would C not weaken the argument?
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