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can anyone explain me, I did

0.36(100-x)+0x=0.27(100)
36-0.36x=27
x=25

and what is wrong?
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Re: A 100-litre mixture of milk and water contains 36 litres of [#permalink]
I was thinking this:

Current mixture: 36% or 36 liters of milk. Since my total liters don't change my new milk content is 25 liters. Thus 36-(36/100)=25. Not sure where I'm going wrong either.
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alphonsa wrote:
A 100-litre mixture of milk and water contains 36 litres of milk. 'x' litres of this mixture is removed and replaced with an equal quantum of water. If the process is repeated once, then the concentration of the milk stands reduced at 25%. What is the value of x?

A) 17.5 litres
B) 16.67 litres
C) 17.67 litres
D) 16.5 litres
E) 16 litres

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Milk ................ Water .................. Total

36 .................... 64 ......................... 100

X litres of mixture is removed; so water & milk gets removed proportionally

\(36 - \frac{36x}{100}\) ............. \(64 - \frac{64x}{100}\) ............... 100 - x

Now x litres of water is added

\(36 - \frac{36x}{100}\) ............. \(64 - \frac{64x}{100} + x\) ............... 100

Process is repeated; Again x litres of mixture is removed

Now, milk in the new solution \(= (36-\frac{9x}{25})%\)

So, milk is x litres of mixture \(= (36-\frac{9x}{25}) * \frac{x}{100}\)

Milk content in new mixture\(= 36 - \frac{36x}{100} - (36-\frac{9x}{25}) * \frac{x}{100} = 25\)

This is a complex quadratic equation..... this question is good indeed, seems some flaw in the numeric....

Bunuel, your kind comments please.......... :)
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Temurkhon wrote:
can anyone explain me, I did

0.36(100-x)+0x=0.27(100)
36-0.36x=27
x=25

and what is wrong?


The iteration is twice, kindly refer my post above......
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PareshGmat wrote:
alphonsa wrote:
A 100-litre mixture of milk and water contains 36 litres of milk. 'x' litres of this mixture is removed and replaced with an equal quantum of water. If the process is repeated once, then the concentration of the milk stands reduced at 25%. What is the value of x?

A) 17.5 litres
B) 16.67 litres
C) 17.67 litres
D) 16.5 litres
E) 16 litres

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Milk ................ Water .................. Total

36 .................... 64 ......................... 100

X litres of mixture is removed; so water & milk gets removed proportionally

\(36 - \frac{36x}{100}\) ............. \(64 - \frac{64x}{100}\) ............... 100 - x

Now x litres of water is added

\(36 - \frac{36x}{100}\) ............. \(64 - \frac{64x}{100} + x\) ............... 100

Process is repeated; Again x litres of mixture is removed

Now, milk in the new solution \(= (36-\frac{9x}{25})%\)

So, milk is x litres of mixture \(= (36-\frac{9x}{25}) * \frac{x}{100}\)

Milk content in new mixture\(= 36 - \frac{36x}{100} - (36-\frac{9x}{25}) * \frac{x}{100} = 25\)

This is a complex quadratic equation..... this question is good indeed, seems some flaw in the numeric....

Bunuel, your kind comments please.......... :)



36- 36x/100 ...
Why 36x/100 :(
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alphonsa wrote:
PareshGmat wrote:
alphonsa wrote:
A 100-litre mixture of milk and water contains 36 litres of milk. 'x' litres of this mixture is removed and replaced with an equal quantum of water. If the process is repeated once, then the concentration of the milk stands reduced at 25%. What is the value of x?

A) 17.5 litres
B) 16.67 litres
C) 17.67 litres
D) 16.5 litres
E) 16 litres

Source: 4Gmat


Milk ................ Water .................. Total

36 .................... 64 ......................... 100

X litres of mixture is removed; so water & milk gets removed proportionally

\(36 - \frac{36x}{100}\) ............. \(64 - \frac{64x}{100}\) ............... 100 - x

Now x litres of water is added

\(36 - \frac{36x}{100}\) ............. \(64 - \frac{64x}{100} + x\) ............... 100

Process is repeated; Again x litres of mixture is removed

Now, milk in the new solution \(= (36-\frac{9x}{25})%\)

So, milk is x litres of mixture \(= (36-\frac{9x}{25}) * \frac{x}{100}\)

Milk content in new mixture\(= 36 - \frac{36x}{100} - (36-\frac{9x}{25}) * \frac{x}{100} = 25\)

This is a complex quadratic equation..... this question is good indeed, seems some flaw in the numeric....

Bunuel, your kind comments please.......... :)



36- 36x/100 ...
Why 36x/100 :(


x% of 36 = 36% of x of milk is removed in the first iteration.
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Re: A 100-litre mixture of milk and water contains 36 litres of [#permalink]
For 100 lts of mixture, we have 36 lts of milk.(36%)
after removing some amount of mixture and adding the same quantity of water the milk content is 25lts.(25%)

Difference in milk = 9lts

100 lts of mixture has 36 lts of milk, so how much mixture will have 9lts of milk
100 - 36
? - 9

=>(9*100)/36 = 25

So 25 lts of mixture is replaced by 25lts of water.

Per my understanding there is something missing in the question???
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For 100 lts of mixture, we have 36 lts of milk.(36%)
after removing some amount of mixture and adding the same quantity of water the milk content is 25lts.(25%)

Difference in milk = 9lts

100 lts of mixture has 36 lts of milk, so how much mixture will have 9lts of milk
100 - 36
? - 9

=>(9*100)/36 = 25

So 25 lts of mixture is replaced by 25lts of water.

Per my understanding there is something missing in the question???


No, process is repeated, so twice totally.

Please refer above post.

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36(1-x)^2=25

Solve for x: 36x^2-72x+11=0 (-66x-6x)

Factors: x=1/6, x=11/6

1/6*100=16.67

11/6*100=183 (not possible)

Hence, x=16.67
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For 100 lts of mixture, we have 36 lts of milk.(36%)
after removing some amount of mixture and adding the same quantity of water the milk content is 25lts.(25%)

Difference in milk = 9lts

100 lts of mixture has 36 lts of milk, so how much mixture will have 9lts of milk
100 - 36
? - 9

=>(9*100)/36 = 25

So 25 lts of mixture is replaced by 25lts of water.

Per my understanding there is something missing in the question???


OK, Thanks mate. I get it now.
I think the question would be more clear if it problem states "the process is repeated once again".
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alphonsa wrote:
:-D I just found a direct way of doing this.

For replacement problems

C(Final)/C(Initial) = \((1-x/y)^n\)

Where C is the concentration
x is the amount replaced
y is the total amount
and
n is the number of replacement

Therefore for the given problem
(25/36) = \((1- x/100 )^2\)

Take Square root on both sides
5/6 = (1- x/100)

x= 16.67 litres :-D


That's fine as long as you get the logic behind it is similar to decline in population.

Final = Original * ( 1 - rate)^n
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I believe I would not be the first person to say that this is a very BAD question for GMAT practice.

Water = 64/100
Milk = 36/100
so when we remove x, we remove 0.36x of milk, and we are left with 36-0.36x of milk.
then we add x of water, and we have 64+0.36x water.

since we need to repeat this..
we need to find new ratio of milk and water:
milk = (36-0.36x)/100
and we remove again (36-0.36x)x/100

we then are told that
36-0.36x - (36-0.36x)x/100 = 25
11=0.36x + (36-0.36x)x/100
multiply by 100
1100 = 36x+36x-0.36x^2
1100=72x-0.36x^2

to solve this..is a nightmare...to be honest..I spent almost 1 hour to try to figure out maybe there's a shortcut..but there is not

YOU WILL NEVER SEE SUCH A COMPLEX QUADRATIC EQUATION on GMAT!
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I believe I would not be the first person to say that this is a very BAD question for GMAT practice.

Water = 64/100
Milk = 36/100
so when we remove x, we remove 0.36x of milk, and we are left with 36-0.36x of milk.
then we add x of water, and we have 64+0.36x water.

since we need to repeat this..
we need to find new ratio of milk and water:
milk = (36-0.36x)/100
and we remove again (36-0.36x)x/100

we then are told that
36-0.36x - (36-0.36x)x/100 = 25
11=0.36x + (36-0.36x)x/100
multiply by 100
1100 = 36x+36x-0.36x^2
1100=72x-0.36x^2

to solve this..is a nightmare...to be honest..I spent almost 1 hour to try to figure out maybe there's a shortcut..but there is not

YOU WILL NEVER SEE SUCH A COMPLEX QUADRATIC EQUATION on GMAT!

Working formula ...
Initial Concentration*Initial Volume=Final Concentration*Final Volume.
Let X is the part removed from 100 lts.
36%(1-X/100)^2 = 25% * 100%
(1-x/100)^2=25/36------>(1-x/100)^2=(5/6)^2
100-X=500/6
x=100/6------>16.67...
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Well This was my approach.
In 100L mixture we have 36 L milk and 64 L water.
Hence M and W are in the ratio of 9:16.
x L of solution has been removed.
Hence we have 36-9/25x of milk and 64- 16/25x of water.
FOR CALCULATION SIMPLICITY multiply and divide 9/25x by 4 WE GET 36/100x
Since this procedure is repeated 2 times.
This was my equation
25=36*(36-36/100x)^2)/(36)^2

By solving it.
We get x=100/6 OR 50/3 OR 16.67

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its really not clear that there are two iterations!!
if this process is repeated once suggests that there is only one. :S
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its really not clear that there are two iterations!!
if this process is repeated once suggests that there is only one. :S


I agree with this... The question should say "the process is repeated AGAIN" .. once seems to suggest that the process happened once.

This took me around 4 minutes to solve..
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After first removal, the mixture would be \(100-x\) and will contain \(36*\frac{(100-x)}{100}\) liter milk.
After second removal, the mixture would be \(100-x\) and will contain \(36*\frac{(100-x)}{100}*\frac{(100-x)}{100}\)liter milk

∴ \(36*\frac{(100-x)}{100}*\frac{(100-x)}{100}=25\)
\(=>\)\((\frac{(100-x)}{100})^2\)=\(\frac{25}{36}\)
\(=>(\frac{(100-x)}{100})\)=\(\frac{5}{6}\)
\(=>600-6x=500\)
\(=> -6x=-100\)
\(=>x=16.67\)
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