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A clock can be divided in 12 equal parts, to find out the shaded region more than 10 minutes or not, we need radios of the clock and angle made by the clock for that region.

A) Radius =10 , shaded region angle is not given so insufficient
B) Area if given but angle and radius is not known, so insufficient

Together A+B) we have radius and area of the sector, so we can find out the angle of the sector, so Sufficient

Hence answer is C
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A clock can be divided in 12 equal parts, to find out the shaded region more than 10 minutes or not, we need radios of the clock and angle made by the clock for that region.

A) Radius =10 , shaded region angle is not given so insufficient
B) Area if given but angle and radius is not known, so insufficient

Together A+B) we have radius and area of the sector, so we can find out the angle of the sector, so Sufficient

Hence answer is C
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Please check the highlighted part and Statement 2.

Statement 2 clearly tells us that that The area of the sector is more than 16π.

which doesn't tell us exact area but it just provides us the range of Areas and in such cases it's NECESSARY to check if the Range gives us a consistent answer or NOT.

Unfortunately the range doesn't provide a consistent answer and hence it's not sufficient
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If O represents the center of a circular clock and the point of the clock hand is on the circumference of the circle, does the shaded sector of the clock represent more than 10 minutes?

(1) The clock hand has a length of 10.
(2) The area of the sector is more than \(16\pi\).

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MANHATTAN GMAT OFFICIAL SOLUTION:

First of all, note that this is a Yes/No Data Sufficiency question.

The question “Does the shaded sector of the clock represent more than 10 minutes?” is really asking you about the area of a sector of a circle.

Since 10 minutes is 1/6 of an hour, you are being asked if the shaded region is equal to more than 1/6 of the area of the circle.

(1) INSUFFICIENT: The “clock hand” is equal to the radius. Knowing that the radius = 10 is enough to tell you that the entire area of the circle is equal to 100#. You can rephrase the question as, “Is the area of the shaded region more than one-sixth of \(100\pi\)?” You can simplify 1/6 of 100# as such:

\(\frac{100\pi}{6}=16.(6)\pi\)

Thus, the question can be rephrased as, “Is the area of the shaded region more than \(16.(6)\pi\)?” However, you don’t know anything about the area of the shaded region from this statement alone.

(2) INSUFFICIENT: The area of the sector is more than \(16.(6)\pi\). By itself, this does not tell you anything about whether the area of the sector is more than 1/6 the area of the circle, since you do not know the area of the entire circle.

(1) AND (2) INSUFFICIENT: The area of the entire circle is \(100\pi\), and the area of the sector is “more than \(16.(6)\pi\).” Since 1/6 of the area of the circle is actually 16.6#, knowing that the area of the sector is “more than 16#” is still insufficient — the area of the sector could be \(16.1\pi\) or something much larger.

The correct answer is E.
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Thank you bumpbot. This is actually a valuable topic. It's not too difficult. I chose the wrong answer because I assume that It's sufficient when combining two statements, so without calculating. I think that who chose C for this question had the same thinking as me.
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Hi Experts - chetan2u, Bunuel, VeritasKarishma, nick1816, GMATBusters

Just wondering, if i can i find the if the area of the sector is more than 1/6th area of circle in any of the following 3 cases -

a) angle of the sector / 360 degrees ...If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
b) length of shadow / circumference of circle. .. If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
c) Area of the sector / Area of circle as given per this problem
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Yes your understanding is correct.


jabhatta@umail.iu.edu wrote:
Hi Experts - chetan2u, Bunuel, VeritasKarishma, nick1816, GMATBusters

Just wondering, if i can i find the if the area of the sector is more than 1/6th area of circle in any of the following 3 cases -

a) angle of the sector / 360 degrees ...If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
b) length of shadow / circumference of circle. .. If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
c) Area of the sector / Area of circle as given per this problem
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Yes your understanding is correct.


[quote="jabhatta@umail.iu.edu"
Just wondering, if i can i find the if the area of the sector is more than 1/6th area of circle in any of the following 3 cases -

a) angle of the sector / 360 degrees ...If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
b) length of shadow / circumference of circle. .. If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
c) Area of the sector / Area of circle as given per this problem


But why are you assuming that 10 min. is equal to 1/6 of the circle. The circle is a clock, so 10 min. should be equal to:
1. Converting 12h to minutes= 12*60= 720 min.
2. 10 min. of the circle=10/720= 1/72.

So the shaded area of the circle (clock) should equal 1/72
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GMATBusters wrote:
Yes your understanding is correct.


[quote="jabhatta@umail.iu.edu"
Just wondering, if i can i find the if the area of the sector is more than 1/6th area of circle in any of the following 3 cases -

a) angle of the sector / 360 degrees ...If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
b) length of shadow / circumference of circle. .. If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
c) Area of the sector / Area of circle as given per this problem


But why are you assuming that 10 min. is equal to 1/6 of the circle. The circle is a clock, so 10 min. should be equal to:
1. Converting 12h to minutes= 12*60= 720 min.
2. 10 min. of the circle=10/720= 1/72.

So the shaded area of the circle (clock) should equal 1/72
mgan: the wording of the question is very unusual and could probably be clearer. We have to assume that the 10 min is referring to the minutes hand of the clock (10min/60 min for a full revolution = 1/6 of the circle), not the hours hand, as you've done above.
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mgan wrote:
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Yes your understanding is correct.


[quote="jabhatta@umail.iu.edu"
Just wondering, if i can i find the if the area of the sector is more than 1/6th area of circle in any of the following 3 cases -

a) angle of the sector / 360 degrees ...If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
b) length of shadow / circumference of circle. .. If more than 1/6th, then even the area of the sector will be more than 1/6th area of the circle
c) Area of the sector / Area of circle as given per this problem


But why are you assuming that 10 min. is equal to 1/6 of the circle. The circle is a clock, so 10 min. should be equal to:
1. Converting 12h to minutes= 12*60= 720 min.
2. 10 min. of the circle=10/720= 1/72.

So the shaded area of the circle (clock) should equal 1/72
: the wording of the question is very unusual and could probably be clearer. We have to assume that the 10 min is referring to the minutes hand of the clock (10min/60 min for a full revolution = 1/6 of the circle), not the hours hand, as you've done above.


Ok, now I see. Thanks a lot!
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