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Hi all,

Long time lurker applying to R2. Just a quick question: does the application not allow for an alternative transcript? Page 4 (Previous Education) states, "Do not send a transcript or list an institution where you did not earn or will not earn a degree, except in the case where a course(s) was taken to meet a requirement for the program you are applying. (EX: Community or Junior College, or non-degree study or study abroad coursework is not needed)."

I have a bit of a unique situation: I completed my freshman year at one college, then transferred to another college for one semester, decided I had made a mistake and transferred back to my original school. Should I even list the one semester record? Finally, I have taken one Statistics course since graduating; can I list this?

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The entrepreneurial route is less popular, but if that's your goal don't be shy about it. There are plenty of folks who want to do consulting so you can actually distinguish yourself more by talking about entrepreneurship.

I've been impressed by how strong the entrepreneurial vibe is in Michigan and there's a decent amount of stuff going on, with Ross students faring very well, particularly in the clean tech start-up space. Michigan as a state is trying to cultivate entrepreneurship. It sponsored the Accelerate Michigan competition and UofM students sweeped the student competition - http://www.acceleratemichigan.org/main. ... &nid=14410. One of the great things about Michigan is that it's interdisciplinary, so these UofM teams are composed of Ross, Erb (Ross & SNRE), and Engineering students.

Another UofM start-up in the news is Bebaring. The founder is a senior and partner is an Erber (on the cover of the UofM alumni mag). The founder, Allen Kim, just won Entrepreneur of the Year.
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/217707-3
http://ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=8182

Ross is also attracting students interested in social enterprise. There's the Social Venture Fund (www.umsocialventure.com), one of the 3 student-run VC funds, that invests in for-profit social enterprises. And there's also a course called Social Venture Creation which launched Get Fresh Detroit, which has been garnering a lot of attention - http://www.getfreshdetroit.com/.

At Ross, there's a group of classes under "Entrepreneurial Studies" and these include New Venture Creation, among others. There's also an interdisciplinary class with the business, engineering, and design schools that's called Integrated Product Development. And there's also a club of course - Entrepreneur and Venture Club.

UofM President Mary Sue Coleman has also stated that entrepreneurship is one of the biggest opportunities for the University, so look for more to come at the university level. She's heading up the National Advisory Council on Innovation and Entrepreneurship - http://www.annarbor.com/business-review ... member-sa/.

There's plenty more to find in Ann Arbor and Detroit (TechArb, SPARK, BizdomU, TechTown, Sakti3, A123, Accio, First Step Fund...) so harness your entrepreneurial spirit and go for it.


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Thanks Piggles! :) Infact I had looked at the Zell-Lurie Institute website before and am very keen on its offerings- but from the admission perspective, wasn't sure if they would like it- I might stick with the "safer" post-graduate professions and then if I get admitted i can always opt for courses from the Institute.

Best of luck to all Round 1 hopefuls who are waiting on their deicisons!


If your real goal is to start something after business school, I would highly recommend you state that in your essays. Yes, the school (and actually the University more broadly) is making a push to develop/provide entrepreneurial opportunities to students - DTE Clean energy Prize, Dare to Dream grants, Frankell Fund etc. It appears that the State of Michigan is also getting behind the university in the hope that companies founded out of school will create some much needed jobs. So by all means, feel free to stay true to your entrepreneurial goals in your essays.

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piggles and vikx13 - I just got confirmation from Ad-com about your feedback. They are passing on your feedback to the application team and will be actively following up with them.

Btw, happy new year to all you folks!


So I'm assuming this guarantees me an admit? It's clearly very useful feedback!


Absolutely. I asked the Ad-com to look for the essays that sound like they've been written by someone who likes crazy knife wielding penguins :)

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Guys, does one need to write something in the optional essay? I mean Ross has pretty open optional essay and although I feel I can talk about my extracurriculars and all but not sure if it is recommended here. After all it is extra burden for the adcom. Please advice.


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Guys, does one need to write something in the optional essay? I mean Ross has pretty open optional essay and although I feel I can talk about my extracurriculars and all but not sure if it is recommended here. After all it is extra burden for the adcom. Please advice.


I think this is just like the optional essays for any of the other schools. If you feel like there is an important part of you that has not yet been represented, then use the optional essay. Personally, I used it for describe a challenging experience I had growing up, and how it shaped me.

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Guys, does one need to write something in the optional essay? I mean Ross has pretty open optional essay and although I feel I can talk about my extracurriculars and all but not sure if it is recommended here. After all it is extra burden for the adcom. Please advice.


I haven't been admitted "yet" [ hopefully will be :) ] but I agree with KingREEP- I am using the optional essay to strengthen certain aspects of my profile which I feel distinguish me from the crowd and which I could not put in any other essays for Ross..so go for it if you feel strongly about certain points. But yes- try and keep it as short as possible.


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The entrepreneurial route is less popular, but if that's your goal don't be shy about it. There are plenty of folks who want to do consulting so you can actually distinguish yourself more by talking about entrepreneurship.

I've been impressed by how strong the entrepreneurial vibe is in Michigan and there's a decent amount of stuff going on, with Ross students faring very well, particularly in the clean tech start-up space. Michigan as a state is trying to cultivate entrepreneurship. It sponsored the Accelerate Michigan competition and UofM students sweeped the student competition - http://www.acceleratemichigan.org/main. ... &nid=14410. One of the great things about Michigan is that it's interdisciplinary, so these UofM teams are composed of Ross, Erb (Ross & SNRE), and Engineering students.

Another UofM start-up in the news is Bebaring. The founder is a senior and partner is an Erber (on the cover of the UofM alumni mag). The founder, Allen Kim, just won Entrepreneur of the Year.
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/217707-3
http://ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=8182

Ross is also attracting students interested in social enterprise. There's the Social Venture Fund (http://www.umsocialventure.com), one of the 3 student-run VC funds, that invests in for-profit social enterprises. And there's also a course called Social Venture Creation which launched Get Fresh Detroit, which has been garnering a lot of attention - http://www.getfreshdetroit.com/.

At Ross, there's a group of classes under "Entrepreneurial Studies" and these include New Venture Creation, among others. There's also an interdisciplinary class with the business, engineering, and design schools that's called Integrated Product Development. And there's also a club of course - Entrepreneur and Venture Club.

UofM President Mary Sue Coleman has also stated that entrepreneurship is one of the biggest opportunities for the University, so look for more to come at the university level. She's heading up the National Advisory Council on Innovation and Entrepreneurship - http://www.annarbor.com/business-review ... member-sa/.

There's plenty more to find in Ann Arbor and Detroit (TechArb, SPARK, BizdomU, TechTown, Sakti3, A123, Accio, First Step Fund...) so harness your entrepreneurial spirit and go for it.


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Thanks Piggles! :) Infact I had looked at the Zell-Lurie Institute website before and am very keen on its offerings- but from the admission perspective, wasn't sure if they would like it- I might stick with the "safer" post-graduate professions and then if I get admitted i can always opt for courses from the Institute.

Best of luck to all Round 1 hopefuls who are waiting on their deicisons!


If your real goal is to start something after business school, I would highly recommend you state that in your essays. Yes, the school (and actually the University more broadly) is making a push to develop/provide entrepreneurial opportunities to students - DTE Clean energy Prize, Dare to Dream grants, Frankell Fund etc. It appears that the State of Michigan is also getting behind the university in the hope that companies founded out of school will create some much needed jobs. So by all means, feel free to stay true to your entrepreneurial goals in your essays.


Peaceyall- you've got me really excited about Ross now! There appear to be more avenues to pursue entrepreneurship at Ross that I thought! Thanks! I am going with my entrepreneurship now. That's what I see myself doing and that's what I have written about! Just submitted Ross- now all I have to do is wait patiently.


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piggles and vikx13 - I just got confirmation from Ad-com about your feedback. They are passing on your feedback to the application team and will be actively following up with them.

Btw, happy new year to all you folks!


So I'm assuming this guarantees me an admit? It's clearly very useful feedback!


Absolutely. I asked the Ad-com to look for the essays that sound like they've been written by someone who likes crazy knife wielding penguins :)


Good, that was the central theme of my career vision essay.


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Absolutely. I asked the Ad-com to look for the essays that sound like they've been written by someone who likes crazy knife wielding penguins :)


Good, that was the central theme of my career vision essay.


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Am I missing something, or is there not a place in the application for extra-curricular activities? I do a lot of extra stuff that's not included on my resume; every other b-school app I've filled out so far has had a place for this. The "Activities and Honors" section is apparently only for BBA applicants.


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Am I missing something, or is there not a place in the application for extra-curricular activities? I do a lot of extra stuff that's not included on my resume; every other b-school app I've filled out so far has had a place for this. The "Activities and Honors" section is apparently only for BBA applicants.


yeah, search the Ross admissions blog for a post addressing this. Basically, it says you can use your resume, essays, and interview to address extracurriculars.

Here's the link:

http://rossblogs.typepad.com/admissions ... ulars.html


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Am I missing something, or is there not a place in the application for extra-curricular activities? I do a lot of extra stuff that's not included on my resume; every other b-school app I've filled out so far has had a place for this. The "Activities and Honors" section is apparently only for BBA applicants.


From what I've read of previous posts, it needs to be part of your resume (which could be 2 pages, but isn't recommended) and/or part of your essays.

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Am I missing something, or is there not a place in the application for extra-curricular activities? I do a lot of extra stuff that's not included on my resume; every other b-school app I've filled out so far has had a place for this. The "Activities and Honors" section is apparently only for BBA applicants.


From what I've read of previous posts, it needs to be part of your resume (which could be 2 pages, but isn't recommended) and/or part of your essays.



Man that's odd. I can't fit everything in my essays (and to be honest, they don't leave enough room to be able to explain all your extra-curriculars in detail AND answer the question, you need to be picking two or three at most that are the most important). What's the reasoning behind not wanting to do a 2-page resume?


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Am I missing something, or is there not a place in the application for extra-curricular activities? I do a lot of extra stuff that's not included on my resume; every other b-school app I've filled out so far has had a place for this. The "Activities and Honors" section is apparently only for BBA applicants.


From what I've read of previous posts, it needs to be part of your resume (which could be 2 pages, but isn't recommended) and/or part of your essays.



Man that's odd. I can't fit everything in my essays (and to be honest, they don't leave enough room to be able to explain all your extra-curriculars in detail AND answer the question, you need to be picking two or three at most that are the most important). What's the reasoning behind not wanting to do a 2-page resume?


See this: http://rossblogs.typepad.com/admissions ... ulars.html

Summary: Ross does care, but they really want you to highlight important items in your essays instead of listing items just to list them.


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I used my essay #1 to briefly mention extracurriculars, and used the "passion" essay to go a little deeper.

If you can't find a spot to talk about them in depth in the essays, they probably won't have much of an impact on your application.


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