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If positive integer x is divided by 5, the result is p and the remainder 3. If x is divided by 11, the remainder is 3 again, what is the remainder when p is divided by 11?

(A) 0
(B) 1
(C) 2
(D) 3
(E) 4

I had to plug in numbers, how can you solve this with the remainder formula?
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If positive integer x is divided by 5, the result is p and the remainder 3. If x is divided by 11, the remainder is 3 again, what is the remainder when p is divided by 11?

(A) 0
(B) 1
(C) 2
(D) 3
(E) 4

I had to plug in numbers, how can you solve this with the remainder formula?

If positive integer x is divided by 5, the result is p and the remainder 3: $$x=5p+3$$;
If positive integer x is divided by 11, the the remainder 3: $$x=11q+3$$;

Subtract one from another: $$x-x=(5p+3)-(11q+3)$$ --> $$5p=11q$$---> $$\frac{p}{q}=\frac{11}{5}$$ --> since both $$p$$ and $$q$$ are integers then $$p$$ must be a multiple of 11, so it yields remainder of zero upon division by 11.

Hope it's clear.
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08 Apr 2012, 04:35
I got this wrong....

I tried to plug in numbers but didn't manage to get it. Then just guessed

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19 Apr 2012, 22:35
Bunuel, I tried using this method below as described in

http://gmatclub.com/forum/manhattan-remainder-problem-93752.html#p721341

X=5P+3 , x can be 8 13 18 23...58
X=11Q+3, x can be 14,25,....58

To form the equation n=kx+r
n=55K+58

Not sure how to proceed.
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Since X-3 is divisible both by 5 and by 11,which are prime numbers, so P/11 or X-3/11 will always be with remainder 0
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Bunuel, I tried using this method below as described in

http://gmatclub.com/forum/manhattan-remainder-problem-93752.html#p721341

X=5P+3 , x can be 8 13 18 23...58
X=11Q+3, x can be 14,25,....58

To form the equation n=kx+r
n=55K+58

Not sure how to proceed.

First of all you don't need to use that approach to solve the problem.

Next, you are making a mistake while deriving a general formula.

Positive integer x is divided by 5, the result is p and the remainder 3: $$x=5p+3$$ --> $$x$$ can be: 3, 8, 13, ... Notice that the least value of $$x$$ for which it gives the remainder of 3 upon division by 5 is 3 itself: 3 divided by 5 yields remainder of 3.

Positive integer x is divided by 11, the the remainder 3: $$x=11q+3$$ --> $$x$$ can be: 3, 14, 25, ... Th same here the least value of $$x$$ is 3: 3 divided by 11 yields remainder of 3.

General formula would be: $$x=55k+3$$.

Check the problems below for which you can use this approach:
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If positive integer x is divided by 5, the result is p and the remainder 3. If x is divided by 11, the remainder is 3 again, what is the remainder when p is divided by 11?

(A) 0
(B) 1
(C) 2
(D) 3
(E) 4

I had to plug in numbers, how can you solve this with the remainder formula?

If the remainder is same in both the cases,
x = 5p + 3
x = 11q + 3

then x = 55a + 3
(to understand this concept, check out http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2011/05 ... emainders/)

Since 5p has 55 as a factor, p must be divisible by 11. So remainder is 0
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If positive integer x is divided by 5, the result is p and the remainder 3. If x is divided by 11, the remainder is 3 again, what is the remainder when p is divided by 11?

(A) 0
(B) 1
(C) 2
(D) 3
(E) 4

I had to plug in numbers, how can you solve this with the remainder formula?

When we got 5p = 11k, since 5 and 11 is prime number -> k must be divisible by 5 and p must be divisible by 11 -> A is correct
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I think I took the long road approaching this problem, not sure whether the correct one or not (after looking at the very simple and logical solution given by Bunuel), but this is the way I did it.

x= 5p+3
x=11q+3
p=11c+r

I substituted for p which lead to:

5(11c+r)+3=11q +r --> 5(11c+r)-11q=0 --> 55c+5r-11q=0 --> 11(5c-q)+5r=0. Given that r must be non negative, I concluded that in order for this equation to be 0, r must be equal to 0, as well. Please let me know if this conclusion is faulty.
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Bunuel wrote:
BN1989 wrote:
If positive integer x is divided by 5, the result is p and the remainder 3. If x is divided by 11, the remainder is 3 again, what is the remainder when p is divided by 11?

(A) 0
(B) 1
(C) 2
(D) 3
(E) 4

I had to plug in numbers, how can you solve this with the remainder formula?

If positive integer x is divided by 5, the result is p and the remainder 3: $$x=5p+3$$;
If positive integer x is divided by 11, the the remainder 3: $$x=11q+3$$;

Subtract one from another: $$x-x=(5p+3)-(11q+3)$$ --> $$5p=11q$$---> $$\frac{p}{q}=\frac{11}{5}$$ --> since both $$p$$ and $$q$$ are integers then $$p$$ must be a multiple of 11, so it yields remainder of zero upon division by 11.

Hope it's clear.

I also had the same line of thinking. thanks for all the guidance.
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I have done via number estimation.
I have taken list of all multiple values of 11 [ 22,33,44,55,66, ..] and added 3 to each. That results to [25, 36, 47, 58, 69, ...]
58 satisfy with first rule provided in question stem. 58 / 5 = 11 * 5 + 3. Therefore when we divide 55 with 11, remainder is 0.
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So 'result' = 'Quotient'?
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