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What is the value of length n<100 meter of wire? (1) When divided equal part of 10 meter each, a piece of 5 meter is left. (2) When divided equal of 6 meter each, a piece of 1 meter is left.
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LM wrote: What is the value of length n<100 meter of wire?
1) When divided equal part of 10 meter each, a piece of 5 meter is left.
2) When divided equal of 6 meter each, a piece of 1 meter is left. What is the value of length n<100 meter of wire?(1) When divided equal part of 10 meter each, a piece of 5 meter is left > \(n=10q+5\): 5, 15, 25, ..., 95. Not sufficient. (2) When divided equal of 6 meter each, a piece of 1 meter is left > \(n=6p+1\): 1, 7, 13, 19, 25, ..., 97. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) General formula of \(n\) based on \(n=10q+5\) and \(n=6p+1\) would be \(n=30m+25\) > \(n\) can be: 25, 55 or 85. Not sufficient. Answer: E. To elaborate more. How to derive general formula of \(n\) based on \(n=10q+5\) and \(n=6p+1\): divisor will be the least common multiple of above two divisors 6 and 10, hence 30. Remainder will be the first common integer in above two patterns, hence 25. So, to satisfy both conditions, \(n\) must be of a type \(n=30m+25\): 25, 55 or 85. For more about this concept see: manhattanremainderproblem93752.html#p721341whenpositiveintegernisdividedby5theremainderis90442.html#p722552whenthepositiveintegeraisdividedby5and125591.html#p1028654Hope it helps.
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Bunuel wrote: LM wrote: What is the value of length n<100 meter of wire?
1) When divided equal part of 10 meter each, a piece of 5 meter is left.
2) When divided equal of 6 meter each, a piece of 1 meter is left. What is the value of length n<100 meter of wire?(1) When divided equal part of 10 meter each, a piece of 5 meter is left > \(n=10q+5\): 5, 15, 25, ..., 95. Not sufficient. (2) When divided equal of 6 meter each, a piece of 1 meter is left > \(n=6p+1\): 1, 7, 13, 19, 25, ..., 97. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) General formula of \(n\) based on \(n=10q+5\) and \(n=6p+1\) would be \(n=30m+25\) > \(n\) can be: 25, 55 or 85. Not sufficient. Answer: E. To elaborate more. How to derive general formula of \(n\) based on \(n=10q+5\) and \(n=6p+1\): divisor will be the least common multiple of above two divisors 6 and 10, hence 30. Remainder will be the first common integer in above two patterns, hence 25. So, to satisfy both conditions, \(n\) must be of a type \(n=30m+25\): 25, 55 or 85. For more about this concept see: manhattanremainderproblem93752.html#p721341whenpositiveintegernisdividedby5theremainderis90442.html#p722552whenthepositiveintegeraisdividedby5and125591.html#p1028654Hope it helps. To elaborate more. How to derive general formula of \(n\) based on \(n=10q+5\) and \(n=6p+1\): divisor will be the least common multiple of above two divisors 6 and 10, hence 30. Remainder will be the first common integer in above two patterns, hence 25. So, to satisfy both conditions, \(n\) must be of a type \(n=30m+25\): 25, 55 or 85. Thanks very much. Above would have been very difficult to figure out in the real exam.



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N<100 What is N? (1). N =10A +5 ..... N can be 5,15,25,35 and so on INSUFFICIENT (2). N= 6B + 1 .... N can be 1,7,13,19,25 and so on INSUFFICIENT Combining (1).& (2). We get N = 30X + 25 N can be 25,55,85 Hence INSUFFICIENT (E) it is !!
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Actually, this problem you can solve at most in 10 seconds:)The main point here is that all numbers with exact remainder form arithmetic progression with difference=divisor. For example, all x such that "when x is divided by 5 the remainder is 1" form arithmetic progression with first element 1 and difference 5: 1, 6, 11, 16, 21..... If 50<x<100 for example, I can definitely say that there are several such x, because the distance between all such numbers is 5. To solve this problem you need just to check if the divisor=(distance between numbers) large enough to have only 1 number inside interval. So, I need to find exact number less than 100. (1) The difference=divisor=10 is quite small for 100. Insufficient. (2) The difference=divisor=6 is quite small for 100. Insufficient. (1)+(2) The new difference=least common multiple of 10 and 6=30 is small for 100. Insufficient. The correct answer is E You don't really need here to write formula for x and first several values for each statement.
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smyarga wrote: Actually, this problem you can solve at most in 10 seconds:)
The main point here is that all numbers with exact remainder form arithmetic progression with difference=divisor.
For example, all x such that "when x is divided by 5 the remainder is 1" form arithmetic progression with first element 1 and difference 5: 1, 6, 11, 16, 21.....
If 50<x<100 for example, I can definitely say that there are several such x, because the distance between all such numbers is 5.
To solve this problem you need just to check if the divisor=(distance between numbers) large enough to have only 1 number inside interval.
So, I need to find exact number less than 100. (1) The difference=divisor=10 is quite small for 100. Insufficient. (2) The difference=divisor=6 is quite small for 100. Insufficient.
(1)+(2) The new difference=least common multiple of 10 and 6=30 is small for 100. Insufficient.
The correct answer is E
You don't really need here to write formula for x and first several values for each statement. For (1)+(2), we need to know that the first number is 25. Only then we could say that this is insufficient. If the first number was >70, (1)+(2), could've been sufficient.



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LM wrote: What is the value of length n<100 meter of wire?
(1) When divided equal part of 10 meter each, a piece of 5 meter is left.
(2) When divided equal of 6 meter each, a piece of 1 meter is left. How about this? n < 100  (1) S1 When divided equal part of 10 meter each, a piece of 5 meter is left. implies n = 10k + 5, where k is some integer 10k + 5 < 100 (from 1) solving k < 9.5 implies no unique solution for n as it can have multiple values. Therefore insufficient. S2 When divided equal part of 6 meter each, a piece of 1 meter is left. solving as above we get k < 16.5 which again means it is insufficient. Even combining S1 and S2 we don't reach a definite solution. Hence answer is E.



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