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What if the numbers are

x1,x2,x3,x4 where x2=50 and x3=51?

Then clearly (2) would be insufficient.

Could you please clarify.


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ucb2k7 wrote:
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What if the numbers are

x1,x2,x3,x4 where x2=50 and x3=51?

Then clearly (2) would be insufficient.

Could you please clarify.


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(2) says that the median is 50. If x2=50 and x3=51, the median is 50.5 NOT 50.
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Why can't any number be zero?
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Why can't any number be zero?


If the average of four distinct positive integers is 60, how many integers of these four are less than 50?

0 is neither positive nor negative.
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It's almost always better to express the average in terms of the sum: the average of four distinct positive integers is 60, means that the sum of four distinct positive integers is \(4*60=240\).

Say four integers are \(a\), \(b\), \(c\) and \(d\) so that \(0 \lt a \lt b \lt c \lt d\). So, we have that \(a+b+c+d=240\).

(1) The median of the three largest integers is 51 and the sum of two largest integers is 190. The mdian of \(\{b,c,d\}\) is 51 means that \(c=51\). Now, if \(b=50\), then only \(a\), will be less than 50, but if \(b \lt 50\), then both \(a\) and \(b\), will be less than 50. But we are also given that \(c+d=190\). Substitute this value in the above equation: \(a+b+190=240\), which boils down to \(a+b=50\). Now, since given that all integers are positive then both \(a\) and \(b\) must be less than 50. Sufficient.

(2) The median of the four integers is 50. The median of a set with even number of terms is the average of two middle terms, so \(\text{median}=\frac{b+c}{2}=50\). Since given that \(b \lt c\) then \(b \lt 50 \lt c\), so both \(a\) and \(b\) are less than 50. Sufficient.


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Do we really need to consider the first part of statement 1 here "The median of the three largest integers is 51"
I think 2nd part of Statement suffices the need to prove that the 2 integers will be less than 50.
Am I interpreting something incorrect here ?
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Bunuel wrote:
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It's almost always better to express the average in terms of the sum: the average of four distinct positive integers is 60, means that the sum of four distinct positive integers is \(4*60=240\).

Say four integers are \(a\), \(b\), \(c\) and \(d\) so that \(0 \lt a \lt b \lt c \lt d\). So, we have that \(a+b+c+d=240\).

(1) The median of the three largest integers is 51 and the sum of two largest integers is 190. The mdian of \(\{b,c,d\}\) is 51 means that \(c=51\). Now, if \(b=50\), then only \(a\), will be less than 50, but if \(b \lt 50\), then both \(a\) and \(b\), will be less than 50. But we are also given that \(c+d=190\). Substitute this value in the above equation: \(a+b+190=240\), which boils down to \(a+b=50\). Now, since given that all integers are positive then both \(a\) and \(b\) must be less than 50. Sufficient.

(2) The median of the four integers is 50. The median of a set with even number of terms is the average of two middle terms, so \(\text{median}=\frac{b+c}{2}=50\). Since given that \(b \lt c\) then \(b \lt 50 \lt c\), so both \(a\) and \(b\) are less than 50. Sufficient.


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Do we really need to consider the first part of statement 1 here "The median of the three largest integers is 51"
I think 2nd part of Statement suffices the need to prove that the 2 integers will be less than 50.
Am I interpreting something incorrect here ?


If you just consider second part of 1st statement then the possibility of the numbers = { 20,30,40, 150} or {10,40, 94,96} which does not give one answer.
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In statement a) why can’t A be 0?

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In statement a) why can’t A be 0?

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That's why:

If the average of four distinct positive integers is 60, how many of these four integers are less than 50?
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