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clipea12 wrote:
whats wrong with C ?
somehow I see 'have the potential for a recovery' and 'have some level of consciousness' to be parallel.
what am I missing ?
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With option C the sentence become something like this

Researchers at U.C.L.A medical school say the findings support the idea that some patients who appear completely unresponsive have some level of consciousness that they cannot show — perhaps low, but real — and that have the potential for a recovery.

Now think about the parallel items

idea
1. that some patients who appear......
2. that have the potential for a recovery.

These two are PSEUDO parallel. In the second item on the list, "have" does not have the intended subject!
the second item sounds like this
.....support the idea that have the potential for a recovery. The idea DOES NOT have the potential for a recovery, but the people do. So, Wrong!
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B is concise and somewhat parallel. What's O A?

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B is concise and somewhat parallel. What's O A?

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The correct option here is option B.
You can see the correct option in the spoiler on the first post itself.
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Correct Answer is C. Less thn 40 seconds :-D

Here is how ...

C maintains "THAT" "AND THAT" parallelism. Eliminate A and B straightaway..

Try to like at it following way..

Researchers at U.C.L.A medical school say the findings support the idea that some patients ......... have some level of consciousness that they cannot show — ...... — and that have the potential for a recovery.

What is OA ? Please provide source
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Correct Answer is C. Less thn 40 seconds :-D

Here is how ...

C maintains "THAT" "AND THAT" parallelism. Eliminate A and B straightaway..

Try to like at it following way..

Researchers at U.C.L.A medical school say the findings support the idea that some patients ......... have some level of consciousness that they cannot show — ...... — and that have the potential for a recovery.

What is OA ? Please provide source


Do you mean "that that they cannot show" and "that have the potential for a recovery" are parallel? In that case the sentence conveys a faulty meaning. The relative pronoun "that" refers to "consciousness". The second parallel element would then imply: "consciousness have the potential for a recovery", which does not make sense.

The parallel elements are: " some level of consciousness" and " the potential to recover".
Some patients have some level of consciousness and the potential to recover.

B is the correct answer.
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Sorry but I beg to differ... I can not find any mistake in C and in GMAT not many options are choosen for being concise.. Please provide OA and source..
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Sorry but I beg to differ... I can not find any mistake in C and in GMAT not many options are choosen for being concise.. Please provide OA and source..


Probably my previous post was not clear enough - I did not say anything about concision. Let me try to explain once again, and this time I am trying to make it even simpler:

Let us say C is correct - the sentence is then:

Researchers at U.C.L.A medical school say the findings support the idea that some patients who appear completely unresponsive have some level of consciousness that they cannot show — perhaps low, but real — and that have the potential for a recovery.

Your point is that C maintains "THAT" "AND THAT" parallelism. Therefore I have made the font colour blue for the first element of the parallel structure and green for the second element of parallel structure.

Now please let me know what does "THAT" refer to - what is the antecedent for "THAT"?

Once you answer this question, we shall discuss further (unless you realize yourself where the error is).
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aman15390 wrote:
Sorry but I beg to differ... I can not find any mistake in C and in GMAT not many options are choosen for being concise.. Please provide OA and source..


B. The idea that some patients who appear completely… (the subject of the that clause is some patients)… have some level of consciousness that they cannot show — perhaps low, but real — and the potential to recover.

C. The idea that some patients who appear completely… (the subject of the that clause is some patients)… have some level of consciousness that they cannot show — perhaps low, but real —and [the idea] that have the potential for a recovery…( by not mentioning some patients, the subject becomes that, which refers to the idea, not to the patients.)
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Can anyone please explain how option a is wrong?

Per original meaning I thought that the idea conveys two things:
1) some patients...
2) they have potential to recover.

Per me this makes more sense and I eliminated b because of absence of "that"

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Can anyone please explain how option a is wrong?

Per original meaning I thought that the idea conveys two things:
1) some patients...
2) they have potential to recover.

Per me this makes more sense and I eliminated b because of absence of "that"

Hi Rishav, in A, that in the underlined portion would be parallel to that on the LHS of and (that they cannot show).

So, A seems to suggest some patients have some level of consciousness:
i) that they cannot show
- Seems fine, since that refers to consciousness

ii) that they might have the potential to recover
- This is absurd. By virtue of parallelism, that would again refer to consciousness. However, the sentence then doesn't make sense.

Option B is portraying that some patients have:
i) some level of consciousness and
ii) the potential to recover
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Hi AjiteshArun, daagh,

Your help is solicited

Not much has been explained as to why the option A is incorrect :

Researchers at U.C.L.A medical school say the findings support the idea that some patients who appear completely unresponsive have some level of consciousness that they cannot show — perhaps low, but real — and also that they might have the potential to recover.


Whether highlighted parts are not parallel ?
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Hi AjiteshArun, daagh,

Your help is solicited

Not much has been explained as to why the option A is incorrect :

Researchers at U.C.L.A medical school say the findings support the idea that some patients who appear completely unresponsive have some level of consciousness that they cannot show — perhaps low, but real — and also that they might have the potential to recover.


Whether highlighted parts are not parallel ?
Hi abhishekmayank,

There are two ways to take A out quickly:
1. Focus on the little things: (a) also is redundant with and, (b) using might and have the potential also introduces redundancy, (c) adding a pronoun (they) creates (some) ambiguity, (d) the that is ambiguous (as EducationAisle mentioned, does it refer to idea or some level of consciousness?), and (e) option A is too wordy.
2. Focus on the intended meaning: The sentence seems to be introducing one idea (the idea). Do we want to go with a the idea (i) that... and (ii) that... structure, where (ii) does not seem to be directly related to what is in (i)?

Option A: ... the idea (a) that some patients who appear completely unresponsive have some level of consciousness... and also (b) that they might have the potential to recover
Option B: ... the idea that some patients who appear completely unresponsive have (a) some level of consciousness... and (b) the potential to recover

Along with all the other issues we identified in (1), option B is just so much simpler and cleaner than A.

For what it's worth, I think the people who made this question made sure that option A included an almost absurd number of small issues because they wanted there to be no doubt that A is incorrect.
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Researchers at U.C.L.A medical school say the findings support the idea that some patients who appear completely unresponsive have some level of consciousness that they cannot show — perhaps low, but real — and also that they might have the potential to recover.



(A) and also that they might have the potential to recover
and also is unnecessary since since it's part of the study

(B) and the potential to recover
The meaning is perfect and the wording consice

(C) and that have the potential for a recovery
This gives us a meaning as though the patients are going for a coverted operation

(D) as well as having the potential to recover
as well isn't the right usage distorts the meaning therefore out

(E) the potential for a recovery
Similar reasoning as C

Therefore IMO B
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