Last visit was: 27 Apr 2024, 18:16 It is currently 27 Apr 2024, 18:16

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
SORT BY:
Date
Tags:
Show Tags
Hide Tags
avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 06 Jul 2013
Posts: 1
Own Kudos [?]: 282 [282]
Given Kudos: 0
Most Helpful Reply
Intern
Intern
Joined: 08 Aug 2011
Posts: 20
Own Kudos [?]: 307 [132]
Given Kudos: 19
Send PM
avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 10 Sep 2013
Posts: 59
Own Kudos [?]: 223 [62]
Given Kudos: 2
Concentration: Sustainability, International Business
Send PM
User avatar
VP
VP
Joined: 06 Sep 2013
Posts: 1345
Own Kudos [?]: 2393 [30]
Given Kudos: 355
Concentration: Finance
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
18
Kudos
12
Bookmarks
Let me show you what I tried to do with this one

Is the figure a square?

Well if its a square then perimeter is 4x and area is x^2, pretty obvious up to here.

Now, statement 1

P=4/3A

So if the figure is in fact a square then it must follow that 4x=4/3 (x^2)

Is 12x = 4x^2?
Is 4x (x-3) = 0?
Is x = 3?

Well we can't solve this so insufficient

Statement 2 says that P= 4 (sqrt) A

So is 4x = 4 (sqrt (x^2))?

Well is 4x = 4 abs (x)?

If x is the side of the square then x>0, so 4x = 4x, so yes this is in fact a square

Answer is B

Hope this helps
Cheers :-D
J
User avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 14 Aug 2013
Posts: 23
Own Kudos [?]: 154 [27]
Given Kudos: 4
Location: United States
Concentration: Finance, Strategy
GMAT Date: 10-31-2013
GPA: 3.2
WE:Consulting (Consumer Electronics)
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
21
Kudos
6
Bookmarks
olifurlong wrote:
If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?
1) P=4/3A
2)P=4√A


for a rectangle Perimeter P=2(l+b)
Area A=l*b

From 1) 2(l+b)=4/3*(l*b)
6(l+b)=4(l*b)
3(l+b)=2(l*b)
this equation satisfies for l=3 and b=3, dimensions of a square and at l=6,b=2 dimensions of a rectangle..hence not sufficient

From 2) 2(l+b)=4√(l*b)
(l+b)=2√(l*b) squaring both sides
(l+b)^2=4l*b
(l-b)^2=0
l=b,which is a square, Sufficient
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 12 Sep 2015
Posts: 6818
Own Kudos [?]: 29958 [20]
Given Kudos: 799
Location: Canada
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
10
Kudos
10
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
Top Contributor
olifurlong wrote:
If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?

(1) P = (4/3)(A)
(2) P = 4√A

Given: A rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches

Target question: Is the region square?
This is a good candidate for rephrasing the target question.

So, what kind of relationship between P and A do we need in order for the rectangular region to be a SQUARE?
Well, if the region is a square, then all 4 sides will be the same length
So, if P = the perimeter (sum of all 4 sides), then P/4 = the length of each side
If P/4 = the length of each side, then the AREA = (P/4)(P/4)
In other words: A = (P/4)(P/4)
Simplify: A = P²/16
Multiply both sides by 16 to get: 16A = P²
Take square root of both sides to get: 4√A = P
So, if 4√A = P, then we can be certain that the region is a square.
REPHRASED target question: Does 4√A = P?

Below, you'll find a video with tips on rephrasing the target question

Statement 1: P = (4/3)(A)
Let's TEST some values.
There are several values of P and A that satisfy statement 1. Here are two:
Case a: P = 12 and A = 9. In this case, the answer to the REPHRASED target question is YES, 4√A DOES EQUAL P
Case b: P = 4 and A = 3. In this case, the answer to the REPHRASED target question is NO, 4√A does NOT equal P
Since we cannot answer the REPHRASED target question with certainty, statement 1 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: P = 4√A
Perfect!!
The answer to the REPHRASED target question is YES, 4√A DOES EQUAL P
Since we can answer the REPHRASED target question with certainty, statement 2 is SUFFICIENT

Answer: B

RELATED VIDEO

Originally posted by BrentGMATPrepNow on 22 Nov 2018, 09:45.
Last edited by BrentGMATPrepNow on 28 Mar 2021, 13:08, edited 1 time in total.
General Discussion
Retired Moderator
Joined: 17 Sep 2013
Posts: 282
Own Kudos [?]: 1219 [2]
Given Kudos: 139
Concentration: Strategy, General Management
GMAT 1: 730 Q51 V38
WE:Analyst (Consulting)
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
2
Kudos
My approach here :

From 1: 3(l+b)= 2lb

Put in
b= 10L (or anything that makes it a non square)

33L=20L^2
33=20L

There definitely is some value of L that will satisfy this..So a rectangle does exist..

b=l

6L = 2L^2
6=2L
L=3

So a square too exists...Done A is insuff

For B

the equation comes to: 2(L+B)=4\sqrt{LB}
Square and simplify
L^2 + B^2 - 2 LB = 0
which is (L-B)^2

you can also try the above approach here:
B=10 L
101L^2- 20L^2 = 0

Which aint true..So B is suff to say that it is indeed a square
Intern
Intern
Joined: 08 Feb 2014
Status:Going the extra mile
Posts: 8
Own Kudos [?]: 38 [5]
Given Kudos: 56
Location: Netherlands
Concentration: Strategy, International Business
GMAT 1: 470 Q37 V18
GMAT 2: 570 Q36 V32
GMAT 3: 560 Q37 V30
GMAT 4: 610 Q41 V34
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
2
Kudos
3
Bookmarks
olifurlong wrote:
If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?

(1) P = 4/3*A
(2) P = 4√A


I would solve this question by simply plugging in numbers.

1. Let's assume the rectangular is indeed a square.
2. Let's assume the side of the square is 4.

If the side of this square is 4:
The perimeter would be 16 and the area would be 16 as well.

(S1) P = 4/3√A
If the rectangular is a square, all values for A area should correspond with the right value for P.
In my assumed case: if the perimeter is 16 , the area should be 16 too.
In this case : 16 is not equal to 4/3*16 , so we can't say for sure that this rectangle indeed is a square.

(S2) P = 4√A
16=4*√16
We got a match!

If you want to be sure , try any other plugin for a square.
Lets say the side of the rectangle is 2.
For it to be a square the perimeter should be 8(2+2+2+2) and the area is 4(2*2)
8=4√4
So as you can see , S2 will hold true for any plugin.A
avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 14 Jul 2014
Posts: 67
Own Kudos [?]: 95 [1]
Given Kudos: 49
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
1
Kudos
kusena wrote:
olifurlong wrote:
If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?
1) P=4/3A
2)P=4√A


for a rectangle Perimeter P=2(l+b)
Area A=l*b

From 1) 2(l+b)=4/3*(l*b)
6(l+b)=4(l*b)
3(l+b)=2(l*b)
this equation satisfies for l=3 and b=3, dimensions of a square and at l=6,b=2 dimensions of a rectangle..hence not sufficient

From 2) 2(l+b)=4√(l*b)
(l+b)=2√(l*b) squaring both sides
(l+b)^2=4l*b
(l-b)^2=0
l=b,which is a square,Sufficient



This can be Rhombus as well right?Even Rhombus has all sides equal. So how can we confidently say that it is a square. We dont know whether the diagonals are equal

Would really appreciate if someone can clear my doubt

Thanks
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11669 [3]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
3
Kudos
Expert Reply
Hi buddyisraelgmat,

The prompt refers to a RECTANGULAR REGION, so the four corners must be 90 degrees each. Thus, we're dealing with either a rectangle of some kind or a square.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
User avatar
Retired Moderator
Joined: 29 Apr 2015
Posts: 717
Own Kudos [?]: 4225 [9]
Given Kudos: 302
Location: Switzerland
Concentration: Economics, Finance
Schools: LBS MIF '19
WE:Asset Management (Investment Banking)
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
7
Kudos
2
Bookmarks
olifurlong wrote:
If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?

(1) P = 4/3*A
(2) P = 4√A


I would also solve by plugging in values:

Let's create two rectangular regions which are squares:

Generally: P = 4s (where s is the side of a square) and \(A = s^2\)

First square with side 2:
P = 8 and A = 4

Second square with side 3:
P = 12 and A = 9

Statement 1: Gives you a yes on the square with side 3 because P = 4/3 * A but a no for the square with side 2.
Statement 2: \(P = 4*\sqrt{A}\) - this is true for both squares we created. Fair enough, Answer B.
Manager
Manager
Joined: 26 Mar 2017
Posts: 62
Own Kudos [?]: 221 [5]
Given Kudos: 1
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
5
Kudos
mh not quite satisfied with the explanations :(

So Ill give it a try


If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?


Perimeter of a Square = 4x
Area of a Square = x^2

(1) P = 4/3*A

4x = 4/3*x^2
3x=x^2
x=3

so in order to be a square x has to be 3, but we don't know --> insufficient



(2) P = 4√A

4x=4√x^2
x=x


--> sufficient


cheers
Manager
Manager
Joined: 23 Dec 2013
Posts: 86
Own Kudos [?]: 81 [14]
Given Kudos: 23
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 710 Q45 V41
GMAT 2: 760 Q49 V44
GPA: 3.76
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
4
Kudos
10
Bookmarks
olifurlong wrote:
If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?

(1) P = 4/3*A
(2) P = 4√A


The goal is to determine if the shape is in fact a square.

Statement 1) P = 4/3*(A)

If true, then P=4x and A = x^2

4x = 4/3*(x^2)
x = x^2/3
x = 3

Only true if the side is length 3. We don't know if the side of the shape has length 3, so the statement is insufficient.

Statement 2) P = 4sqrt(A)

4x = 4sqrt(x^2)
4x=4x
x = x

This statement is true, so the statement is sufficient.
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 03 Jun 2019
Posts: 5345
Own Kudos [?]: 3972 [1]
Given Kudos: 160
Location: India
GMAT 1: 690 Q50 V34
WE:Engineering (Transportation)
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
1
Kudos
olifurlong wrote:
If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?

(1) P = 4/3*A
(2) P = 4√A


Asked: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?

For square P = 4a & area A = a^2
P = 4√A

(1) P = 4/3*A
P = 4a^2/3
If a = 3
P = 12= 4*3; Area = 9; a= 3; Square
But if a=2
A = 4; P= 16/3: Not a square
NOT SUFFICIENT

(2) P = 4√A
If side = a; A = a^2 ; P = 4a = 4√A; Square
SUFFICIENT

IMO B
Manager
Manager
Joined: 22 Jul 2019
Posts: 71
Own Kudos [?]: 10 [0]
Given Kudos: 38
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
as a non-english native speaker.

I dont understand what the question is asking.

If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?

My interpretation : a rectangular region, since the the prompt already specified it's a rectangular, why the question is asking if that is a square?
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11669 [1]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
1
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
waihoe520 wrote:
as a non-english native speaker.

I dont understand what the question is asking.

If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A square inches, is the region square?

My interpretation : a rectangular region, since the the prompt already specified it's a rectangular, why the question is asking if that is a square?


Hi waihoe520,

By definition, a 'rectangular region' has four 90-degree angles and two 'pairs' of opposite sides that are equal in length. Thus, a square IS a rectangle (since a square fits that definition), but most rectangles are NOT squares (since a square has 4 equal sides and most rectangles do not).

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Intern
Intern
Joined: 11 Apr 2020
Posts: 6
Own Kudos [?]: 6 [0]
Given Kudos: 6
Location: India
Schools: Sloan '24
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
Hi

abhimahna Bunuel
Can you explain why statement 1 is not sufficient ?

As per statement 1

1) P=4/3*A

P= 2(l+b) and A l*b

hence , substituting

2(l+b)=4/3*l*b
6l+6b =4lb
3l+3b=2lb
3l+3b-2lb=0

Rearranging
3l-lb + 3b-lb=0
l(3-b)+b(3-l)=0

-> Since l,b are dimensions of a figure l,b cannot be 0 or negative
Therefore to make the above expression 0
l=b=3

Hence statement 1 is sufficient.
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 92959
Own Kudos [?]: 619488 [0]
Given Kudos: 81611
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
Expert Reply
shivali22 wrote:
Hi

abhimahna Bunuel
Can you explain why statement 1 is not sufficient ?

As per statement 1

1) P=4/3*A

P= 2(l+b) and A l*b

hence , substituting

2(l+b)=4/3*l*b
6l+6b =4lb
3l+3b=2lb
3l+3b-2lb=0

Rearranging
3l-lb + 3b-lb=0
l(3-b)+b(3-l)=0

-> Since l,b are dimensions of a figure l,b cannot be 0 or negative
Therefore to make the above expression 0
l=b=3

Hence statement 1 is sufficient.


2(l+b)=4/3*l*b has infinitely many solutions. Foe example, if l = 10, then b = 30/17. Even if you assume that l and b are integers (which would not be correct), still 2(l+b)=4/3*l*b has more solutions. Foe example, b = 2 and l = 6.
VP
VP
Joined: 11 Aug 2020
Posts: 1262
Own Kudos [?]: 201 [0]
Given Kudos: 332
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
Wondering what I did wrong here. For statement 2, we can just plug in numbers ...

P = 4√A
A = 4 ---> P = 8

With 8, you can make a square with sides = 2 all around or do 3-1-3-1

Why is this solution wrong?
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11669 [1]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Expert Reply
Hi CEdward,

TESTing VALUES is a great way to approach this question, but you still have to follow all of the 'restrictions' that the prompt gives you (as well as the overall rules of math).

In your example, you have an AREA of 4 and a PERIMETER of 8.

With a 2x2 square, you have an area of 4 and a perimeter of 8, so this is a possible option.
With a 1x3 rectangle, you have an area of 3..... but that does NOT match the area of 4 that needs to occur, so a 1x3 rectangle is NOT possible here. The ONLY option that fits this particular combination of area and perimeter is a 2x2 square.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
GMAT Club Bot
Re: If a rectangular region has perimeter P inches and area A sq [#permalink]
 1   2   
Moderator:
Math Expert
92959 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne