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# Smithtown University s fund-raisers succeeded in getting

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08 Apr 2010, 21:36
IMO C....
Please mention the source of question. Option A appears Out of Scope !!!
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29 Jul 2010, 10:49
It´s clearly A.
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03 Jan 2011, 10:45
According to C, if most of the donations came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it and were made without the university's fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors, that means that SUniversity did not made any effort canvassing.

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06 Jan 2011, 03:37
Me too C
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29 Mar 2011, 11:03
"Smithtown University’s fund-raisers succeeded in getting donations from 80 percent of the potential ---***donors they contacted***---" --> That's why C is irrelevant.

(C) This year most of the donations that came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it were made **without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.**

(A) Smithtown University’s fund-raisers were successful in their contacts with potential donors who had never given before about as frequently as were fund-raisers for other universities in their contacts with such people. ---> supports "does not indicate that they were doing a good job". They just do as much as other university's fund-raisers do.
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29 Mar 2011, 12:55
its confusing....i thought it is C....tough one though...
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29 Mar 2011, 20:46
Answer looks like C. Could some instructor try to explain this. What is the source of this question? Option A looks like weakening the argument instead of strengthening. Hope this is not from 1000 series!!!
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09 Apr 2011, 12:11
IMO A.

B-E actually weaken the argument by stating that the University has been successful with new donors. The argument states the high success rate is because they got the bulk of their donations from the same old crowd of habitual donors. A is the only one that tackles this by saying that they were just as successful with new donors as other universities showing that the high success rate does not indicate a wildly successful campaign thereby supporting the argument.

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12 May 2011, 07:48
IMO C.

"The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort."

This year most of the donations that came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it were made without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.

This makes the most sense.
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12 May 2011, 07:49
IMO C.

"The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort."

This year most of the donations that came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it were made without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.

There was no contact, yet the funds were raised. This shows insufficient canvassing effort. This makes the most sense.

Can we have an instructor to take a look at this?
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12 May 2011, 23:16
Between A and C, A doesn't really strengthen the conclusion about insufficient canvassing.

C says that most of the donation from a group of people who have donated earlier came without even contacting them. Gives a slight hint about non utilization of canvassing work itself.

C is a better choice.
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18 May 2011, 10:07
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Smithtown University’s fund-raisers succeeded in getting donations from 80 percent of the potential donors they contacted. This success rate, exceptionally high for university fund-raisers, does not indicate that they were doing a good job. On the contrary, since the people most likely to donate are those who have donated in the past, good fund-raisers constantly try less-likely prospects in an effort to expand the donor base. The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort.

Which of the following, if true, provides more support for the argument?

(A) Smithtown University’s fund-raisers were successful in their contacts with potential donors who had never given before about as frequently as were fund-raisers for other universities in their contacts with such people.
(B) This year the average size of the donations to Smithtown University from new donors when the university’s fund-raisers had contacted was larger than the average size of donations from donors who had given to the university before.
(C) This year most of the donations that came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it were made without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.
(D) The majority of the donations that fund-raisers succeedned in getting for Smithtown University this year were from donors who had never given to the university before.
(E) More than half of the money raised by Smithtown University’s fund-raisers came from donors who had never previously donated to the university.

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this one was a bouncer for upar cut , got A in 3:31 min .

mark one of the conclusions here ' does not indicate that they were doing a good job now think of a comparison between smithtown univ fundraisers and fundraisers from other univ as stated in A. as frequently as is the clue when A is read carefully, the fundraisers from smithtown univ are compared to fundraisers from other univ , and the criterion is ' success with new fund raisers' . A states ST univ fundraisers were no better than fundraisers from other univ. A supports the argument.

the answer is clear A therefore.

As an after thought i think i should clarify why C is incorrect.

the main conclusion is The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort

C states the fund raisers did not contact most of those who donated previously. that means they contacted mostly new potential donors and probably succeeded , hence not insufficient canvassing efforts .this attacks the main conclusion rather than supporting it.
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04 Jul 2011, 00:15
mbaMission wrote:
Smithtown University’s fund-raisers succeeded in getting donations from 80 percent of the potential donors they contacted. This success rate, exceptionally high for university fund-raisers, does not indicate that they were doing a good job. On the contrary, since the people most likely to donate are those who have donated in the past, good fund-raisers constantly try less-likely prospects in an effort to expand the donor base. The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort.

"less likely prospects" is important here.
Since C says
 from people who had previously donated to it were made without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.

So these donors are not the less likely prospects

In A it is mentioned that
 contacts with potential donors who had never given before
shows that less likely prospects were contacted but nothing is mentioned of their donation which was the main reason why the fund raiser was held in the first place

Hence IMO A
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10 Oct 2011, 14:12
I spent 4 minutes without choosing any answer. I feel the supposedly supportive statement is as bad as the argument itself.
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10 Oct 2011, 23:08
Correct answer is C since this argument twice prove fund raisers passivity.
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Correct answer is C since this argument twice prove fund raisers passivity.

I ruled out C.

Fact:
80% of the people CONTACTED donated.

Argument says:
This great percentage is an indicator that shows the fundraiser contacted only frequent donors, or it could not have had such high success rate.

C says: Fundraiser didn't contact the regular donors because most of them donated voluntarily. This goes against the argument by targeting the assumption in the reasoning of the argument. If regular donors were not contacted so much, then the 80% success rate could only be from the less-likely donors who were actually contacted.
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18 Oct 2011, 03:54
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greatfriend wrote:
Correct answer is C since this argument twice prove fund raisers passivity.

I ruled out C.

Fact:
80% of the people CONTACTED donated.

Argument says:
This great percentage is an indicator that shows the fundraiser contacted only frequent donors, or it could not have had such high success rate.

C says: Fundraiser didn't contact the regular donors because most of them donated voluntarily. This goes against the argument by targeting the assumption in the reasoning of the argument. If regular donors were not contacted so much, then the 80% success rate could only be from the less-likely donors who were actually contacted.

I selected C, but am wrong
thanks for the explanation.
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10 Dec 2011, 04:40
A compares the S university fundraisers with the fundraisers of some other Y university(ies). Now, who knows about the fundraisers in Y university - Whether they are too good that the total % > 80, or < 80, or what? - Too OOS.

On the other hand, C remains the answer. I tell you, C tries to bank on excessive passivity of the fundraisers, possibly too strong to read through the stem again. Such strong answers are not expected in GMAT land, (allegedly from a few experts ), so off the worst, possible C, handles the bill!

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10 Dec 2011, 13:10
I still go with the answer A because the premise has been talking about the success rate of the fund raisers and not about the total amounted donated. If donors donated on their free will it doesn't show much relevance on how successful the fund raisers were because those donors are not in the equation of the success rate.
Answer A is not a strong argument for the conclusion but it still supports that the fund raisers are not doing anything special relative to any other school and the success rate of 80% is just because they contacted previous donors.
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