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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 22 Aug 2012, 13:05
Hi Ranjeet,

Following are the links of two articles that deal with the usage of Verb-ed modifier and the difference between the verb-ed modifier and simple past tense. Please go through them. If you still have any doubts regarding any of these topics, feel free to ask us. :)
verb-ed-modifiers-vs-verb-ing-modifiers-125611.html
ed-forms-verbs-or-modifiers-134691.html

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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2012, 08:43
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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2012, 08:51
Dear Hurrydil,

Did you review the response by Shraddha? Do you have any questions on the same.

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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2012, 10:09
I would like to ask one question here.
I know that if the same subject works as a subject as well as an object, then we are supposed to use -Ing and -ed verb form.
My doubt is whether -Ing form is correct even when we are talking about past?
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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2012, 11:37
@Siddharthasingh
Why not? Not I am going to use ing forms both in past and present connotations. (Please do not mistake ing forms as just present progressives. They can becomes either present progressives or past progressives only when the auxiliary verbs such as - is or are or was or were - are used in front.)
I am eating---ing used in present progressive
I was eating ---ing used in past progressive
He was eating, they were eating, you were eating,: all are examples of ing forms in the past tense.
To repeat, just the stand-alone- ing -form does not decide the tense.
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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2012, 12:12
Thanks daagh.
I know the question was a bit stupid, but after clarification I am on a brighter side.
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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2013, 09:21
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The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing from city to city, and to the establishment of regional times.

This question tests parallel modifiers.

(A) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing
Not parallel: Relative Pronoun and Present Participle

(B) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and which differed
Parrallel but not as concise as D

(C) which were determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing
Not parallel: Relative Pronoun and Present Participle

(D) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differed


Correct

(E) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing
Parrallel but not as paralell as D

CAN you please post the OA !

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Hey! why B is not correct? D is totally wrong, because, 'and differed' is there (to be corrected) , which requires parallelism to be established, hence, we have to introduce 'which' before differed. Am I right? please explain where I went wrong.

And also, 'the abolition of local times' is a singular phrase, hence, 'which was determined by when...' is to be used.
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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 03 Feb 2013, 06:30
If one checks the meaning, one can conclude that differing is correct as local times were offering from region to region.
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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2013, 07:28
ranjeet75 wrote:

Why "differed from city to city" is a verb phrase and not a verb-ed modifier. In the context of the sentence

The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differed from city to city, and to the establishment of regional times.

If we omit the red coloured part then "differed" can be treated as verb-ed modifier.

Please explain and make me understand the concept.


The simple reason is that because Local Times is working as Subject of the verb differed.

Consider -

1) In colonial era, Painters differed greatly in their arts. --> differ from -(as a verb)
2- Cancer risk profiles differed by Gender and Age are easily available over internet --> working as past participle

Below is the test that I usually perform.
1) Its more of finding if the subject can perform the action. If yes, then its a Verb else it may be Past Participle.
2)If confused whether it is working as past participle or verb, check if there is prep "by" i,.e if its an passive voice, then ed form should work as past participle

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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2013, 07:47
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Al Pacino's Paintings differed in cultural themes were an awe inspiring experience for the Greeks. Here- differed is working as Past Participle.


this is not correct .i hope this (sentence) ur not reproducing from some official source . in fact this sentence is wrong .kindly confirm me that this is not the official sentence
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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2013, 08:24
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Al Pacino's Paintings differed in cultural themes were an awe inspiring experience for the Greeks. Here- differed is working as Past Participle.


this is not correct .i hope this (sentence) ur not reproducing from some official source . in fact this sentence is wrong .kindly confirm me that this is not the official sentence


Edited my post. Nopes, that wasn't an OG question. Apologies for confusion. However, going forward, if you could post a brief explanation about your analysis, that would be helpful.
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Re: Challenging Question [#permalink] New post 13 May 2013, 21:52
Hi,

which refers to aboloition of local times or only local times.???

As per my understanding, which refers to the previous noun ...

So does it refer to local times or abolotion of local times????

Please clarify...


ykaiim wrote:
The introductory part is in past tense. So, we need rest of the format in past tense.
1. determined - It is a past participle paralle with led. Moreover it is preferred, IMO, to which were determined

(C) which were determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing
The abolition of local times is singular adjectival phrase. So, which were is incorrect.

(E) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing

So, E is correct, though best of the all worst.


nusmavrik wrote:
Hi Guys

I am reopening this question- since I am am still not able to zero-in on the answer.

The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing from city to city, and to the establishment of regional times.

(A) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing
(B) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and which differed
(C) which were determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing
(D) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differed
(E) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing

C / E which one and why ?

Thanks in advance.
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