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'Prime numbers upto 30' is not the same as 'upto 30th prime number.' Just saying.

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No, it doesn't make sense to me because of some confusing suggestions. They are:
1/ you said not to memorize 3 digit prime numbers. And you also said to memorize up to 30th prime number is enough. But, this 30th prime number is still 3 digit prime! Which is confusing, isn't it?

2/ how did you be sure that GMAC will not ask 3 digit primes in the exam directly or indirectly? Can you please show me any evidence regarding THIS 3 digit primes?

3/ i am student trying to take GMAT. You said upto 30th prime number is enough for GMAT but you gave me a list of upto 997 ( also you mistakenly said it is upto 1000. Actually 1000 is NOT equal to 997 :) ! ) your suggestion and writing doesn't have any GOOD combination at all.

Actually, we should "think or calculate twice, and post once!"
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Dear iMyself,

I'm happy to respond. :-) I assume you acknowledge the mathematical mistakes in your original post.

1) What I said was that it was important memorize the prime numbers up to 30, that is, the set of prime numbers less than 30. This would be the very small set {2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29}, which includes only 10 prime numbers. That is the list that I would say everyone taking the GMAT needs to know. Then I added, it might be helpful to memorize six more, all the prime numbers up to than 50, which would be the set {2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47}, a set of 15 prime numbers. Not much more than that: certainly three-digit prime numbers are unnecessary.

2) My friend, you are a student. I am GMAT expert and I have explained thousands of GMAT math practice questions. In my wide experience, no official questions depend on having the 3-digit primes memorized. Such questions do not exist, but it's unclear how I would "prove" this absence to anyone. I would say that in a statement of absence, the burden of prove falls on the counterexample. For example, can you find a single official question, in the GMAT OG or from GMAT Prep, that actually depends on such knowledge? Such a question would prove me wrong: I would be quite intrigued to see such a question.

3) What I provided, not for GMAT knowledge, but purely for mathematical reference, was a list of "all the prime numbers up to 1000." As you may realize, 998, 999, and 1000 are not prime numbers, so the list of "all the prime numbers up to 1000" ends at 997. If a GMAT problem talks about prime numbers up to 20, you should understand what this means, the eight primes less than 20, and that the list of course doesn't include 20 itself.

Finally, my friend, I will caution you. The need to prove yourself right in this case has lead to misreadings of what I said, and it has the potential to mitigate against your ability to learn deeply in many instances. All true learning comes from a posture of humility and openness. Furthermore, the ability to admit mistakes demonstrates a person's maturity & security, and allows others to trust and respect him. Some unhealthy messages we get in life seem to suggest that being perfect and never wrong is the only way to get respect, but in fact, we get the most respect in life when we are profoundly comfortable and at peace with our own human fallibility. I am pointing all this out, my friend, precisely because I want to support your deep success as a student of the GMAT and in life.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)
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Hi everyone. I am so glad that I am a member in this forum. It is so interesting here.
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I agree that is not necessary to remember too many prime numbers
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mikemcgarry wrote:
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Finally, my friend, I will caution you. The need to prove yourself right in this case has lead to misreadings of what I said, and it has the potential to mitigate against your ability to learn deeply in many instances. All true learning comes from a posture of humility and openness. Furthermore, the ability to admit mistakes demonstrates a person's maturity & security, and allows others to trust and respect him. Some unhealthy messages we get in life seem to suggest that being perfect and never wrong is the only way to get respect, but in fact, we get the most respect in life when we are profoundly comfortable and at peace with our own human fallibility. I am pointing all this out, my friend, precisely because I want to support your deep success as a student of the GMAT and in life.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)


Words that are very well said!
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