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Interesting discussion so far!

4 for C and 1 for E. No takers for others.

Well, as the title says, it's a tricky one :) An option that seems most relevant on the face of it may not be the right one :wink:

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I think E fits the bill. C is close, but it talks about availability of technology at present. The argument is about something to be happening in next 20 -30 years.
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Hello Everyone,

I'll be posting the OA tonight.

Just a teaser right now :) - Only a couple of guys on this thread have selected the correct choice.

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I'll be posting the OA tonight.

Just a teaser right now :) - Only a couple of guys on this thread have selected the correct choice.

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The answer is clearly E


C. With the use of current technologies, what proportion of electricity generated through wind energy can be stored for use at future times when wind may not be blowing?
D. Are there strong corporate lobbies which will strongly oppose any move to substitute non-renewable sources of energy?
E. What proportion of wind energy is available only at inaccessible areas?


In ques E if it's assumed that 100% of wind energy is located at inaccessible areas clearly this will weaken the argument.If it's assumed that 0% of wind energy is located at inaccessible areas the argument would be strengthened.Hence E

Problem C talks about the future possibility of wind energy not being available.The argument does not talk about this situation .Hence this is out of scope.



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OA has been posted. It is option E. People in this thread who chose option E have given correct explanations for the same.

Let me know if anyone still has doubts :)

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OA has been posted. It is option E. People in this thread who chose option E have given correct explanations for the same.

Let me know if anyone still has doubts :)

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Can we discuss why C is not the correct answer. I want to discuss so that I can have more clear thought process.

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OA has been posted. It is option E. People in this thread who chose option E have given correct explanations for the same.

Let me know if anyone still has doubts :)

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Can we discuss why C is not the correct answer. I want to discuss so that I can have more clear thought process.

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Hi Himanshu,

Good that you brought this up. A lot of students marked choice C.

C. With the use of current technologies, what proportion of electricity generated through wind energy can be stored for use at future times when wind may not be blowing?

So, option C asks what proportion of electricity can be stored?

Now, tell me what proportion do we want?

The answer is: We don't know.

Nowhere the passage talks about the times in which wind is not blowing. If the passage had said. let's say, that the wind does not blow for one month every year, then in that case, we would have wanted to store 1/11th of the electricity. In that case, it might have made sense to know how much electricity we can store.

But the given passage does not talk about a scenario in which the wind does not blow. Rather, we don't even know if there is a period in which doesn't blow. Probably, the wind blows all the time. We don't know. In such a scenario, option C does not help us evaluate the argument.

On the other hand, option E is extremely relevant to the argument. We require 40% of wind energy. Right? How much can we access? Less than or more than 40%? This is what option E asks.

Frankly, option C was specially crafted with a lot of relevant and common sense words to confuse students :wink: and placed before the correct choice so that when students read the correct choice, they read it with a bias against the correct choice (because in their mind, they have already found the correct choice) :wink:

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Dear E-Gmat,

I see the same behavior of GMAC to put the wrong answer choice just before or slighty above the OA again & again.
Are there any particular tricks or technics that will help us avoid these traps?

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Dear E-Gmat,

I see the same behavior of GMAC to put the wrong answer choice just before or slighty above the OA again & again.
Are there any particular tricks or technics that will help us avoid these traps?

THX!


Hi,

I think given that there are five choices in a GMAT question and if each has equal probability of being the correct choice, then in 80% of the cases, a wrong choice will appear before the correct choice. Some of these wrong choices will be trickier also. So, I don't see any unexpected pattern here.

Besides, we don't really focus on tricks at eGMAT. Rather, I will caution you against depending on any tricks. I believe that the logical part of your brain should be calling all the shots when you sit for GMAT. If you keep worrying about the set of tricks you learnt, then that would only hamper the free functioning of the logical brain and would negatively impact your score. Just sharing my honest opinion with you.

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A zero-CO2 U.S. economy can be achieved within the next thirty to fifty years without the use of nuclear power. The U.S. renewable energy resource base is vast and practically untapped. Available wind energy resources in 12 Midwestern and Rocky Mountain states equal about 2.5 times the entire electricity production of the United States. Given that we can satisfy our electricity needs by harnessing only 40% of the wind energy resources in these 12 states, it is extremely likely that we will be able to do away with CO2.

The entire argument boils down to the fact that only 40% of the wind energy resources would be required to satisfy the electricity needs of the country => It's likely we will be able to do away with the CO2.
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The only way this master plan would NOT work is if the wind energy is in inaccessible areas -> This is what I thought as soon as I read the argument.



Which of the following would be most useful to evaluate the above argument?
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A. What is the amount of wind energy resources available in rest of the states in the United States?
Argument already states that the 12 states have 2.5 times the entire electricity production of the US. SO this is irrelevant. OUT!


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B. Are there any other renewable energy resources such as solar power, which can be used?

We are only concerned with Wind Energy. OUT!


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C. With the use of current technologies, what proportion of electricity generated through wind energy can be stored for use at future times when wind may not be blowing?

Current Tech isn't a part of this discussion. Plus, I really don't think the proportion of electricity that can be stored has anything to do with the author's claim that we can do away with CO2


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D. Are there strong corporate lobbies which will strongly oppose any move to substitute non-renewable sources of energy?

This was a close second for me. Even if they do strongly oppose, they might not be able to win the bill, or it's equivalent, so this options leaves a lot to be desired. Good try but OUT!


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E. What proportion of wind energy is available only at inaccessible areas?

If majority of the wind energy is ONLY available at inaccessible areas then we will not be able to do away with CO2.
This is the correct answer.
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Here's another question from e-GMAT. It is an evaluate question type, which, as experience of recent test takers suggest, is becoming more important on GMAT.

Share your answers with analysis. Looking forward to a healthy discussion :)

A zero-CO2 U.S. economy can be achieved within the next thirty to fifty years without the use of nuclear power. The U.S. renewable energy resource base is vast and practically untapped. Available wind energy resources in 12 Midwestern and Rocky Mountain states equal about 2.5 times the entire electricity production of the United States. Given that we can satisfy our electricity needs by harnessing only 40% of the wind energy resources in these 12 states, it is extremely likely that we will be able to do away with CO2.

Which of the following would be most useful to evaluate the above argument?

A. What is the amount of wind energy resources available in rest of the states in the United States?
B. Are there any other renewable energy resources such as solar power, which can be used?
C. With the use of current technologies, what proportion of electricity generated through wind energy can be stored for use at future times when wind may not be blowing?
D. Are there strong corporate lobbies which will strongly oppose any move to substitute non-renewable sources of energy?
E. What proportion of wind energy is available only at inaccessible areas?

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A very good questio from Egamt

The answer is E

To correctly evaluate the conclusion that US will do away with CO2 we need to shown that the wind energy resources available in the said areas are accessible .
If they are not accessible then they can not be harnessed and US will not be able to achieve is commitment .
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Initially I was confused between C & E , but ended up choosing C .
Somehow ,I believe that the Ans -E would have been the best choice , had it stated that - How much wind energy availablE in inaccessible areas in MRM staes ( those particular 12 states ) .

I went to tick C because I thought the E option sounded too generic , no where it was mentioned about MRM states . The E option is written in such a manner that I thought it is referring to calculate the percentage of inaccessible sources out of whole lot ( USA ) not just those MRM states ( 12 states)
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Availability of wind energy in 12 states is 2.5 times of entire energy production from other sources. Ok.
We need only 40% of wind energy. ok.

Now first question sparked in my mind- what is difference between production and availability of product or services at point of use.
Both are different. It is not necessary that what is produced is equally usable or accessible.
Option E hit the same concept.

In option C, how much wind energy can be stored doesn't help evaluate the argument.

E is answer.
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Initially I was confused between C & E , but ended up choosing C .
Somehow ,I believe that the Ans -E would have been the best choice , had it stated that - How much wind energy availablE in inaccessible areas in MRM staes ( those particular 12 states ) .

I went to tick C because I thought the E option sounded too generic , no where it was mentioned about MRM states . The E option is written in such a manner that I thought it is referring to calculate the percentage of inaccessible sources out of whole lot ( USA ) not just those MRM states ( 12 states)


I hope the confusion is cleared now!

It makes no difference in the context to mention only MRM states rather than the whole of United States here because reading in the context, it has to talk only about regions in which there are wind resources existing. And that means the MRM states and wherever else wind resource is available for the US states. It does not have to be only the MRM states, strictly speaking :)
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