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# Despite being counted as the top hitter of all time, Babe

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Despite being counted as the top hitter of all time, Babe Ruth’s career batting average was .342, while it was actually higher for Ty Cobb at .366.

(A) while it was actually higher for Ty Cobb at .366.
(B) compared to Ty Cobb, who had .366.
(C) whereas the .366 career batting average of Ty Cobb was actually higher.
(D) whereas Ty Cobb was a higher .366.
(E) compared to the batting average of Ty Cobb, which was .366.
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01 Nov 2012, 15:54
Batting avgs are being compared and its a past incident
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02 Nov 2012, 11:54
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Batting avgs are being compared and its a past incident

can we use compare insted of as compared to,,like i discarded the last option on the basis of this confusion,,,,can u plzz explain it,,
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02 Nov 2012, 14:07
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Archit143 wrote:
Batting avgs are being compared and its a past incident

can we use compare insted of as compared to,,like i discarded the last option on the basis of this confusion,,,,can u plzz explain it,,

Good Question

I think they both when used in the sentence have the samemeaning.
yes you are write if we had as compared to the option would have been more complete.

Lets get an expert view on this.
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02 Nov 2012, 14:16
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Dont think its a good question.
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02 Nov 2012, 14:32
I was also thinking the same but can you comment something on
compare to and as compare to
searched a lot bt could not find
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02 Nov 2012, 23:10
Archit143 wrote:
Maryam787 wrote:
Archit143 wrote:
Batting avgs are being compared and its a past incident

can we use compare insted of as compared to,,like i discarded the last option on the basis of this confusion,,,,can u plzz explain it,,

Good Question

I think they both when used in the sentence have the samemeaning.
yes you are write if we had as compared to the option would have been more complete.

Lets get an expert view on this.
Pls PM your doubt to MikeMcgarry.

Can u plz tell me how would i find him( MikeMcgarry)????
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Updated on: 21 May 2013, 06:58
Source is GoGMAT.
I've mistakenly chosen D and that is false.
"...to compare Babe Ruth’s batting average to Ty Cobb himself..." is illogically here.

the right answer is C, when we compare career batting averages

Originally posted by actleader on 03 Nov 2012, 07:55.
Last edited by actleader on 21 May 2013, 06:58, edited 1 time in total.
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03 Nov 2012, 08:02
Anybody notice the problem with the initial modifier?
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03 Nov 2012, 10:42
A sounds good without any flaws. while E looks ok as well although a bit wordier.

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03 Nov 2012, 10:45
A sounds good without any flaws. while E looks ok as well although a bit wordier.

Despite being a great scientist, Einstein's cat was dumb.
This sentence has a modifier problem which is similar to the problem in the given sentence.
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03 Nov 2012, 10:52
A sounds good without any flaws. while E looks ok as well although a bit wordier.

Is ''it'' a clear antecendent in the first option?
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03 Nov 2012, 11:29
Despite being counted as the top hitter of all time, Babe Ruth’s career batting average was .342, Babe Ruth's career is being counted as the top hitter of the game? STOP!while it was actually higher for Ty Cobb at .366.

(A) while it was actually higher for Ty Cobb at .366. "it" modifies the exact the same batting average but here we need a new copy. Hence "that" is needed. Also "WHILE" implies that both the batting averages were at the same moment. One has to be an earlier batting average, so that the comparison sounds logical
(B) compared to Ty Cobb, who had .366.Incorrect comparsion
(C) whereas the .366 career batting average of Ty Cobb was actually higher.
(D) whereas Ty Cobb was a higher .366.Incorrect comparison
(E) compared to the batting average of Ty Cobb, which was .366.

Eliminate ABD.
We are reduced to C and E.
Now here is the point. The Introductory clause uses "Despite counted as the top hitter of the game", so in the rest of the sentence we must have to mention something that reinforces with this fact. example- Despite being a university dropout, Bill Gates has become more successful than his the then university classmates.
C does exactly does that.
Note that in E, if you have eliminated it just on the basis that "which" is modifying Ty Cobb then unfortunately you are wrong. Here "which" is modifying "batting average of Ty Cobb".
ex- Box of nails, which is very large, is kept on the table.
Here "which" is modifying "box".

+1C.
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03 Nov 2012, 11:37
I concur with souvik's view...it has modifier problem, I completely missed out, it should be the name of the person not the possessive form.
Consider a reverse scenario will u pick answers with such modifer issues.

As per the answer Corrected form : Babe Ruth’s career batting average was .342, whereas the .366 career batting average of Ty Cobb was actually higher.

Another flaw in the correct answer choice is
Lets consider a common example

Cost of Mangoes are 4\$, whereas the 6\$ cost of Apples is higher.

I dont think its correct english.
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03 Nov 2012, 11:40
Yeah
This is the reason you always want to official questions, especially in sentence correction.
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03 Nov 2012, 11:50
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Yeah
This is the reason you always want to official questions, especially in sentence correction.

But SouviK can you pls address my doubt on the difference between compared to and as compared to are they both same.

Moreover in above example compared to is used for like thngs ...its wrong it should be used for unlike things.
So in such cases we consider those answers as wrong.
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Despite being counted as the top hitter of all time, Babe Ruth’s career batting average was .342, Babe Ruth's career is being counted as the top hitter of the game? STOP!while it was actually higher for Ty Cobb at .366.

(A) while it was actually higher for Ty Cobb at .366. "it" modifies the exact the same batting average but here we need a new copy. Hence "that" is needed. Also "WHILE" implies that both the batting averages were at the same moment. One has to be an earlier batting average, so that the comparison sounds logical
(B) compared to Ty Cobb, who had .366.Incorrect comparsion
(C) whereas the .366 career batting average of Ty Cobb was actually higher.
(D) whereas Ty Cobb was a higher .366.Incorrect comparison
(E) compared to the batting average of Ty Cobb, which was .366.

Eliminate ABD.
We are reduced to C and E.
Now here is the point. The Introductory clause uses "Despite counted as the top hitter of the game", so in the rest of the sentence we must have to mention something that reinforces with this fact. example- Despite being a university dropout, Bill Gates has become more successful than his the then university classmates.
C does exactly does that.
Note that in E, if you have eliminated it just on the basis that "which" is modifying Ty Cobb then unfortunately you are wrong. Here "which" is modifying "batting average of Ty Cobb".
ex- Box of nails, which is very large, is kept on the table.
Here "which" is modifying "box".

+1C.
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Can u pls specify grounds on which you have eliminated option E.
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03 Nov 2012, 11:55
Well the compared to and compared with differences are way too subtle to be a deal breaker
If you notice, it used to appear in the MGMAT earlier editions and MGMAT people have opted not to mention the rule anymore.
I wont rule out an option just because compared to is used for like things.
For example,
My grades were low this year compared to what they were last year.
Here compared to is modifying a noun which is grades.
However as compared to modifies a phrase
For example,
My grades were low this year as compared to last year.
Here, as compared to is modifying the entire phrase so we do not need to mention the word "grades" again.
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03 Nov 2012, 11:57
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Why Is A wrong ?

Well the entire question is wrong.
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03 Nov 2012, 12:03
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Why Is A wrong ?

Good question

I say its a good question because it will help to understand the use of it here.

errors in A
Us of it :it should stand for noun, so nearest noun here is "the top hitter"
In my opinion it can not stand for a possessive noun.
if at all it will have to do for the whole possessive noun clause, which will include .342.
Hence it will be wrong.

It can not just stand for a part of possessive noun i.e. career batting average.
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