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Energized by its new coaching staff, the team already won twice as many games this year as last year, even though several games still remain to be played this year.

A)already won twice as many games this year as did last year, even though
I believe DID is a typo here.
Even if DID is present, Main sentence is a Fragment rather than a Independent clause. Incorrect


B)has already won twice as many games this year as last year, even if
Use of EVEN IF creates a conditional sentence that is not at all required. Incorrect

C)already won twice as many games this year as it did last year, even if
Use of EVEN IF creates a conditional sentence that is not at all required. Main sentence is a Fragment rather than a Independent clause. Incorrect

D)has already won twice as many games this year as did last year, even though
Correct comparison between the no of games won this year and no of games won last year. Correct

E)has already won twice as many games this year as last year, even though
Incorrect comparison between the no of games won this year and last year. Incorrect
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Hi experts,
I searched the internet and found that the correct answer is E
Please refer to the following link :
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... 24229.html

Please help me understand why (E) is preferred,not (D).

[edit**] (D) has already won twice as many games this year as [the team] did(won) last year, even though

Thanks

Originally posted by sleepynut on 22 Apr 2017, 21:03.
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Energized by its new coaching staff, the team already won twice as many games this year as did last year, even though several games still remain to be played this year.

A)already won twice as many games this year as did last year, even though
B)has already won twice as many games this year as last year, even if
C)already won twice as many games this year as it did last year, even if
D)has already won twice as many games this year as did last year, even though
E)has already won twice as many games this year as last year, even though


Imo E
The act of winning is still going on so we use present perfect tense .
Now we are comparing games won last to games won this year so we have set up correct comparison.

the part of the sentence "won twice as many games this year as they did last year"
We can keep the highlighted part in the sentence fully or we can drop it altogether as in E


Originally posted by arvind910619 on 03 Aug 2017, 23:58.
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I have my share of thought but I am not sure whether this is going in the right direction.
I would like to have an expert opinion on this. egmat daagh can you guys help?

Let us take an example:-
John has more love for money than has his wife.
This clearly explains that John loves money more than his wife loves money.
Here in this sentence "has his wife" clearly indicates that wife is the doer which does make sense.

In the below statement in option D
D)has already won twice as many games this year as did last year, even though
The literal meaning of the sentence is Team has won twice as many games as last year won games
Here "last year" becomes the doer. This gives out an utter rubbish meaning as "last year" is not a person and cannot be a doer.

this is corrected in option E
E)has already won twice as many games this year as last year, even though
Here comparison is between "this year vs last year" which totally is a sensible comparison.
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Can somebody kindly explain the differences between D and E? Thank you!
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Can somebody kindly explain the differences between D and E? Thank you!


Hi

The only difference between options (D) and (E) is the presence of the verb "did" in option (D), which is not present in option (E).

has already won twice as many games this year as did last year, even though

This verb usage in option (D) is incorrect as it has no subject associated with it - who "did"?

Therefore option (E) is the correct answer choice. Hope this clarifies.
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Consider this:

A recent poll found that nearly twice as many Americans believe that there is "too much government regulation of business and industry" as believe there is "too little".

This construction is correct. Unhiding the ellipsis - A recent poll found that nearly twice as many Americans believe that there is "too much government regulation of business and industry" as (Americans) believe (that) there is "too little".

Since, the comparison is between the number of games won last year (present) vs number of games won this year (past), the verb "did" needs to be specified. This is the rule which has been reiterated by experts! Why do we need to mention the subject again? Isn't it obvious? What's not obvious is the verb - we must specify "did".

OE should be D) and not E).
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i think the OE should be D).
When comparing two actions, if there is a change in tense, the verb must be specified.
Therefore, the verb "did" has to be specified, and the subject "team" is ellipsed.
Pls correct me if I am wrong.
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i think the OE should be D).
When comparing two actions, if there is a change in tense, the verb must be specified.
Therefore, the verb "did" has to be specified, and the subject "team" is ellipsed.
Pls correct me if I am wrong.


Yeah, similar reasoning. Not sure why its E, really.
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I believe that the main difference between D and E is what comparison between and hence, the usage of "did".

We are comparing the number of games played this year to those played the last year. The comparison here is between nouns - no of games.
We often see these comparisons on our quants word problems - "P has twice as many ice creams as Q". What is being compared here? - it is the no of ice creams. Since the comparison is between the nouns, I believe the usage of "did" is wrong. We use "did" when we compare two actions. For example - Team played twice as well as Team B did. We are comparing the act of playing here and hence the usage of "did" is correct.

Please can some analyze my explanation and let me know if I am thinking in the right way?
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kop18 wrote:
I believe that the main difference between D and E is what comparison between and hence, the usage of "did".

We are comparing the number of games played this year to those played the last year. The comparison here is between nouns - no of games.
We often see these comparisons on our quants word problems - "P has twice as many ice creams as Q". What is being compared here? - it is the no of ice creams. Since the comparison is between the nouns, I believe the usage of "did" is wrong. We use "did" when we compare two actions. For example - Team played twice as well as Team B did. We are comparing the act of playing here and hence the usage of "did" is correct.

Please can some analyze my explanation and let me know if I am thinking in the right way?

Hello, kop18. Probably the best way to approach a comparison is to not tell it what it needs to be. Although your understanding of comparisons seems sound, I would urge you not to think too rigidly. I see no fundamental problem with either comparison in answer choices (D) and (E).

(D) the team has already won twice as many games this year as it won last year

(E) the team has already won twice as many games this year as [it won] last year

The former comparison is explicit, the latter implied, nothing more. But (D) fails because it lacks the subject it or the team in the latter half of the comparison, and if a verb appears there, so too should the subject. By way of comparison, I could not write, I worked as much this week as worked last week—there is a glaring hole in the latter part of the comparison—but I could truncate the comparison to I worked as much this week as last. A more explicit version would include I did or I worked, as well as week, but none are required to make the comparison meaningful.

Best of luck with your studies.

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